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Thread: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

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    Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Currently legal adulthood federally is skewed, with an individual being defined as a minor if they are under 18 thus an adult when over 18. However there are a few potential issues with this law. First and foremost is the inconsistency of its application on a federal level, with the term "minor" still being used with regards to individuals under 21 for alcohol but being a legally seperate term from the status of a "minor" with regards to adult status. Second, is whether or not with todays culture 18 is still a reasonable age to determine an individual as an "adult".

    Some argue that with the high exposure to information that children recieve from a very young age in this country that they are able to grasp the nuances of life quicker and as such mature at a quicker pace. That individuals who are 16 years of age are just as reasoanbly able to make mature and adult choices regarding their life as those who were a 18 decades ago, due to a better grasp of the world through the immersion into more information.

    On the flip side, others argue that our society is so lavish at this point that many people do not face the challenges or the struggles needed to properly mature by the time they're 18. They point to college life essentially becoming high school part 2, with many college students being immature and college institutions essentially creating a "home-like" support structure rather than somethign mimicking the real world. Thus in reality children today don't really begin moving into a stage of true adulthood in a mature sense till their early 20's.

    This is a far reaching matter. Access to certain items (Such as cigerettes), entrance into the military and potential for the draft, the ability to vote, etc are all related to the federal definition of adulthood. What is your thoughts? Under the law, should we change the definition of a minor and adult in some way to either lower it or raise it? For the sake of this conversation and attempting NOT to turn this into a pedophile issue, lets cap the "lowering" it to 16 years of age at most since that is the lowest any individual state within the US has it set at.

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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    I agree with paragraph 3.

    Now before I start, i wish to state that i am 21.

    I want to analyze a few things I've noticed about the 16-20 age range.


    Compared to 50 years ago, that age range does and has more following by a huge amount:

    Have sex
    Have jobs
    Higher purchasing power.

    That even goes all the way down to 12 years old especially in terms of purchasing power.

    But the problem i see, is that few people even my age that i meet here, know anything about life or the way their own country, or the world works.

    I didn't go to university, i went to acting school, i had the advantage of having lived in Africa, and england growing up, and so have been able to experience more then my peers, who I'm afraid to say... Are to this day, still living in the clouds.

    I believe that's what north american youth culture brings, not for all, there are many intelligent young people I know, some on this very forum, but the majority i feel... Have a long way to go.

    Sure, some of em can beat me at a math test. But when it comes to life smarts, i got em beat every time.

    I think i pretty much ranted there, rather then making any overall point lol...

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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Raising the age would put a greater financial burden on parents, who may end up with children at home that won't grow up when they should either go to college or get a job. If the age is raised, then someone could literally suck off the parental tit after high school without doing anything, and a parent has zero recourse, because the minor is protected by the state.
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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    I would argue that even though teens are exposed to much more in this day and age, they are less mature because they have less responsibility than teens in the past. Now, this creates an interesting issue. On the one hand, lowering the age of adulthood would give teens more responsibility and might make them more mature. However, if the age of adulthood should represent when a person "naturally" becomes an adult, rather than a view of when a person "should" come to be responsible adult, then I think the higher age of adulthood would be more attractive.

    Personally, I think the span between 18 and 21 is pretty arbitrary, and I don't really care where it falls.

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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I agree with paragraph 3.

    Now before I start, i wish to state that i am 21.

    I want to analyze a few things I've noticed about the 16-20 age range.


    Compared to 50 years ago, that age range does and has more following by a huge amount:

    Have sex
    Have jobs
    Higher purchasing power.

    That even goes all the way down to 12 years old especially in terms of purchasing power.

    But the problem i see, is that few people even my age that i meet here, know anything about life or the way their own country, or the world works.

    I didn't go to university, i went to acting school, i had the advantage of having lived in Africa, and england growing up, and so have been able to experience more then my peers, who I'm afraid to say... Are to this day, still living in the clouds.

    I believe that's what north american youth culture brings, not for all, there are many intelligent young people I know, some on this very forum, but the majority i feel... Have a long way to go.

    Sure, some of em can beat me at a math test. But when it comes to life smarts, i got em beat every time.

    I think i pretty much ranted there, rather then making any overall point lol...
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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Raising the age would put a greater financial burden on parents, who may end up with children at home that won't grow up when they should either go to college or get a job. If the age is raised, then someone could literally suck off the parental tit after high school without doing anything, and a parent has zero recourse, because the minor is protected by the state.
    Essentially, that's bad parenting if you cannot raise your children to be personally responsible for themselves. I don't see giving an excuse for bad parenting to be an acceptable reason for not doing a thing. You can't beat or abuse your kids, but you can sure raise them right. Most people do. The helicopter parents and the parents who just don't care deserve what they get.
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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But the problem i see, is that few people even my age that i meet here, know anything about life or the way their own country, or the world works.
    from a youngster, this is one of the most honest and true statements I have seen on this forum. most people your age still think they know everything. kuddos JBM
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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
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    And when you son graduates from high school and tells you to go **** yourself, and lays around the house, don't start whining about not being able to toss your son to the street.
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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    I think changing the age to 19 would be a fair compromise. It gives the kids an extra year of maturity before they are thrust into the "real world" and it would not be that much of an extra burden on the families. hell, many parents support their kids until they are 19-20 already. just make the legal age 19 across the board voting, drinking, smoking, military service, etc.
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    Re: Is it time we change the federal age of adulthood?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And when you son graduates from high school and tells you to go **** yourself, and lays around the house, don't start whining about not being able to toss your son to the street.
    that's what military boarding school is for. if he is still a minor under your legal care....he can't refuse to go.
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