"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
How many of you participating here are parents, and how many of you are the children? Raise your hand.
The life a kids choses is not always the parents' fault. Every child is different, and sometimes no amount of anything will make them walk the right path. I've seen it personally.
"Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run
Mace Windu: Then our worst fears have been realized. We must move quickly if the Jedi Order is to survive.
No, I'm not serious there, it was just a bit of a jab at American education. I definitely think, as a 40-odd year old man, that the age is quite naturally set where it's at. No, most people are not done growing by the age of 18, and on the other side of the spectrum, yes, 18 does seem an arbitrary point to call one an adult. But I think that the old adage of "if something isn't broken, don't fix it" should apply here. In the UK, you can get a full driver's license, legally drink alcohol, smoke, finish school, vote, join the armed forces, and be tried as an adult, upon turning 18. To change all that, for little good reason and entirely no visible benefit, would be silly to me.