View Poll Results: Do you support changing the legal limit

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  • Yes, decrease it in all cases

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  • Yes, increase it in all cases

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  • Yes, decreases it in cases of driving

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  • Yes, increase it in cases of driving

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  • Yes, decrease it in cases of public

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  • Yes, increase it in cases of public

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  • Yes, change it to give police discretion of the label within a range

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  • No, leave it exactly as it current is defined.

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Thread: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Personally, I think you should restrict driving if there is *ANY* level of measurable drugs or alcohol in the system, if they blow anything above 0.0, fine them and above a certain limit, maybe 0.6 or 0.8, arrest them.
    That's plainly overkill, we still have liberties in this country.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That's plainly overkill, we still have liberties in this country.
    You still have responsibilities as well. Driving is not a right, never has been, never will be, it is a privilege. You can drink all you want, you just can't get behind the wheel of a car, just like you can fire your firearm all you want, you just can't do it into a crowd. There are legal restrictions on how you can do things, like it or not. Once someone is impaired, they lose the privilege of driving a car. If people knew that they could be fined, even for being under the legal limit, more people would think twice about getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You still have responsibilities as well. Driving is not a right, never has been, never will be, it is a privilege. You can drink all you want, you just can't get behind the wheel of a car, just like you can fire your firearm all you want, you just can't do it into a crowd. There are legal restrictions on how you can do things, like it or not. Once someone is impaired, they lose the privilege of driving a car. If people knew that they could be fined, even for being under the legal limit, more people would think twice about getting behind the wheel of a car after drinking.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    maybe 0.6 or 0.8, arrest them.
    You won't have to arrest someone with a 0.6 BAC....they'll be dead.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    As to the topic. I think that it should all be raised. 0.08 is very low, and actually DWAI kicks in at 0.05. I also disagree with public drunkenness laws. These are arbitrarily applied laws, not uniformly enforced. Essentially if someone is being a nuisance or something, you have something more to charge them on. But if they're doing something wrong, then they're doing something wrong and there can be intervention (like fighting, or property destruction, etc.). If someone is just drunk walking around, I don't see there being any legitimate means to punish them.

    But as for people thinking drunk driving is oh so horrible and we have to have the punishments we have, how about other forms of distracted driving? Texting while driving is worse than drinking and driving, cellphones and driving in general are on the same level. Applying makeup, messing with the radio, etc. all produce effects on our ability to drive and endanger others. Should all those things have the same punishments as DUI?
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    it went from .10 to .08 for money collecting issues.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    it went from .10 to .08 for money collecting issues.
    So does that mena you think it should remain at .08, raise it back to .10, or lower it to .06 for even more money?

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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So does that mena you think it should remain at .08, raise it back to .10, or lower it to .06 for even more money?


    I think .10 is more than adequate. However, if you can't handle yourself at .08, and that is the case with some folks, the officer still should as they do now even if you blow a .06 to charge you. video evidence should be required.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think .10 is more than adequate. However, if you can't handle yourself at .08, and that is the case with some folks, the officer still should as they do now even if you blow a .06 to charge you. video evidence should be required.
    This is reasonable. Reckless driving is reckless driving, and I think in the end when it comes to drunk driving or any form of distracted driving; this is the functional effect we are looking for. Perhaps we don't need all these other excessive laws when we already have reckless driving laws in place. But as it stands, I do think it should go back to .10. I also think we should get rid of DUI check points. I don't see how it's right to pull people over and question them when they have done nothing wrong. INstead they should patrol and look for signs, such as speeding and weaving and it should ALL be backed up by video evidence. Otherwise the cop can just pull you over anyway and make something up later.
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    Re: Do you support changing the legal limit of intoxication

    The BAC limit for drunk driving should be raised back to 0.10, but the tolerance for public intoxication or "drunk and disorderly" behavior also needs to be lowered considerably.

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