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Thread: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    this seemed like a better alternative than the "will sarah palin quit talking about limited government now" thread...

    the media (soooo hesitant about the Ft Hood shooter) seems to have egg on it's face after it (and the local sheriff) immediately leapt to attempt to blame the Tuscon shooting on 'right wing (especially sarah palins') rhetoric'. and apparently they were completely unfounded and incorrect in doing so.

    not for the first time either; lest we forget the IRS - pilot and the Times Square bomber.

    however, this time The One, Their Own President Himself Who Is Sort Of Like A God has publicly remonstrated them for it (however mildly).

    SO, the question is, will the media and their lefter-wing commentators have learned their lesson? or the next time a nutcase decides to kill a bunch of people, will the MSM and Krugman ask first whether or not the killer had an arabic-sounding name (in which case we need to urge caution in assigning motive) and then ask how they can pin it on those with whom they disagree?
    I think so, yes. Certain people on the professional left have a little egg on their face, and while they may not want to admit it, I think they will probably be more cautious in at least the near future. I can't make any promises, though, for the random annonymous bloggers and commentors on blogs, who were the quickest to allege the erroneous connections, and the most vehement of them.

    Clearly, judging by the other thread, however, the right is just as eager to jump to conclusions based on nothing. But some people cannot separate discussion of consequences of what has happened from a discussion of who was right and who was wrong in allowing it to happen.
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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

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    I think so, yes. Certain people on the professional left have a little egg on their face, and while they may not want to admit it, I think they will probably be more cautious in at least the near future. I can't make any promises, though, for the random annonymous bloggers and commentors on blogs, who were the quickest to allege the erroneous connections, and the most vehement of them.

    Clearly, judging by the other thread, however, the right is just as eager to jump to conclusions based on nothing. But some people cannot separate discussion of consequences of what has happened from a discussion of who was right and who was wrong in allowing it to happen.
    which other thread? the will sarah palin change one?

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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    which other thread? the will sarah palin change one?
    Yes. Not that I'm bitter or anything. lol

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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    "The Media" = strawman
    Just like your post. There were plenty in the media and elsewhere jumping on the "rhetoric" bandwagon. It was wrong to do so before they had the facts. Another Dan Rather momemt for the MSM.
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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    this seemed like a better alternative than the "will sarah palin quit talking about limited government now" thread...

    the media (soooo hesitant about the Ft Hood shooter) seems to have egg on it's face after it (and the local sheriff) immediately leapt to attempt to blame the Tuscon shooting on 'right wing (especially sarah palins') rhetoric'. and apparently they were completely unfounded and incorrect in doing so.

    not for the first time either; lest we forget the IRS - pilot and the Times Square bomber.

    however, this time The One, Their Own President Himself Who Is Sort Of Like A God has publicly remonstrated them for it (however mildly).

    SO, the question is, will the media and their lefter-wing commentators have learned their lesson? or the next time a nutcase decides to kill a bunch of people, will the MSM and Krugman ask first whether or not the killer had an arabic-sounding name (in which case we need to urge caution in assigning motive) and then ask how they can pin it on those with whom they disagree?
    Nope. The pressure presented to journalists by 24/7 news channels will always tend to result in poor journalism.

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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    … the media (soooo hesitant about the Ft Hood shooter) seems to have egg on it's face after it (and the local sheriff) immediately leapt to attempt to blame the Tuscon shooting on 'right wing (especially sarah palins') rhetoric'. and apparently they were completely unfounded and incorrect in doing so.

    not for the first time either; lest we forget the IRS - pilot and the Times Square bomber.

    however, this time The One, Their Own President Himself Who Is Sort Of Like A God has publicly remonstrated them for it (however mildly).

    SO, the question is, will the media and their lefter-wing commentators have learned their lesson? or the next time a nutcase decides to kill a bunch of people, will the MSM and Krugman ask first whether or not the killer had an arabic-sounding name (in which case we need to urge caution in assigning motive) and then ask how they can pin it on those with whom they disagree?
    You offer lots of accusations, but, you don't provide the foundations for any of them. You assume you're right so no shows of evidence for your premises are required. Aren't you acting in precisely the way you claim ‘the media’ is behaving? I rather think so.
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    Re: Will Tuscon Change The Media's Jump-to-Assumptions?

    People in the media are always caught up in the latest dramatics. Their memories are rather short-term. Speculation has become one of their favorite bits. Once in a while self-reflection comes around, but whenever it does, it seems rather limited and self-congratulatory-as if they expect the audience to marvel at their collective brilliance and sense of ethics while demonstrating nothing worthy of even a back-handed compliment.
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