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Thread: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

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    AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

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    Rest assured that every member of Congress was shaking in their boots with a little warm trickle running down the inside of their legs this weekend, knowing full well that it easily could have been any one of them that took a bullet through the brainpan on Saturday morning. Now they're in a full-blown panic, and right at the start of the 112th Congress, too. I expect this Congress to be a lot more careful this time around. It's not good what happened at all, but I can see where the cavalier actions of our Congress over the years has made it necessary.
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    Exactly. IOW, they've been reminded they're not bulletproof like they always thought they were.
    A little something I encountered at another forum. This (IMO) looks like clear-cut advocacy for the events that took place recently in Arizona. Later on in the discussion, one of these posters even went so far as to quote Jefferson and his liberty/tyranny proclamation (regarding government).

    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." ~ Thomas Jefferson

    Anyone agree?
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Yeah, just shoot a congressman every couple of months, just to make sure there's no tyranny. That's a good idea.
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    That is disgusting, that people are thinking about killing people just for the appeal of it. Damn, these are some twisted individuals that take joy in someone loosening their lives in a tragedy.

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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Let's hope the DHS has their numbers...
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Disagree. This congresswoman was hardly a bloody-handed tyrant, nor a supporter of bloody-handed tyrants, nor does a lunatic shooting a congresswoman because of his lunacy have anything to do with this principle.

    We are not currently in a condition of tyranny that would justify such an action in any case.

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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Yeah, just shoot a congressman every couple of months, just to make sure there's no tyranny. That's a good idea.
    There is no reason for hyperbole here. The OP post a thoughtful discussion in my view. No doubt you'll come back and say I support the killing of congressmen along with skippy and RH. We ought to discuss what Jefferson meant by that statement, and when it is appropriate to defend one's rights.
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    There is no reason for hyperbole here. The OP post a thoughtful discussion in my view. No doubt you'll come back and say I support the killing of congressmen along with skippy and RH. We ought to discuss what Jefferson meant by that statement, and when it is appropriate to defend one's rights.
    There's always reason for hyperbole. What I think Jefferson meant is that when your government has become tyrannical, violence should be the last resort, and the government should be aware of that.
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Quote Originally Posted by E_Pluribus_Venom View Post
    A little something I encountered at another forum. This (IMO) looks like clear-cut advocacy for the events that took place recently in Arizona. Later on in the discussion, one of these posters even went so far as to quote Jefferson and his liberty/tyranny proclamation (regarding government).

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    Anyone agree?
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    There's always reason for hyperbole. What I think Jefferson meant is that when your government has become tyrannical, violence should be the last resort, and the government should be aware of that.
    No, what you did is paraphase a quote.
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    Re: AZ Shooting: Tree of Liberty watering?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, what you did is paraphase a quote.
    Well what do you think he meant? 'cause I sort of get the impression he meant what he said.
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