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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    That cant and wont happen and if there is such a way it could gay marriage has no impact on it. It could appen RIGHT NOW if it was possible but its not. Churches dont have to marry anybody they deem unfit and reject straight couples now. and they are protected under the consitituon. Gay marriage doesnt change that.
    Yep, this. The funny thing is I can get married by a church tomorrow, but I can't get married in a courthouse. That's both funny, and sad.
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm in favor of civil unions for everyone. We should separate the legal and ceremonial (and often religious) aspects of marriage. That way gays get their civil rights, and churches aren't forced to marry anyone they aren't comfortable marrying.
    The other problem I have with this is whats the answer to the question "why was it changed" the answer is because of gay marriage. That to me is giving in to the bad guys and continuing discrimination in a backhanded way.
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I voted no. Reason being is that as someone already said...cow manure is still cow manure no matter what it is called. All things being equal a civil union is the same as marriage. Why change the name just to satisfy some persons misguided concept of what marriage is? It wasn't until near history that marriage even started being defined as between a man and a woman. And the reason for that definition is in response to homosexuals. No other reason.


    You should tell that to the two Roman emperors who married men. Historical ignorance is amusing.

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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'm in favor of civil unions for everyone. We should separate the legal and ceremonial (and often religious) aspects of marriage. That way gays get their civil rights, and churches aren't forced to marry anyone they aren't comfortable marrying.
    No church is forced to marry anyone that they don't want to now...what makes you think legalizing gay marriage would result in such a scenario? My wife and I wanted my wifes mothers church to perform our wedding. They denied us because we didn't follow thier religion.

    Statements such as what you just said is nothing short of fear mongering lies.

    Edit note: added word that I forgot to add.
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yep, this. The funny thing is I can get married by a church tomorrow, but I can't get married in a courthouse. That's both funny, and sad.
    Exactly and there arent people crying about the sanctity of the word then LOL thats why its a false cover IMO
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

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    You should tell that to the two Roman emperors who married men. Historical ignorance is amusing.
    How is this contradicting what I stated?
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How is this contradicting what I stated?
    Sorry. I misread it.

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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No church is forced to marry anyone that they don't want to now...what makes you think legalizing gay marriage would result in such a scenario? My wife and I wanted my wifes church to perform our wedding. They denied us because we didn't follow thier religion.

    Statements such as what you just said is nothing short of fear mongering lies.
    Thats EXACTLY what they are, pure fallacy. Most of the bogus biased reasons are nothing but fear mongering.
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Essentially getting rid of the marriage license. That's fair. My question though comes from the fact that there will be Church's who will marry same sex couples. And since marriage would be left to the religious institutions, those same sex couples could then claim legitimate marriage. Will everyone else start bitching because a Church decides that it will wed same sex couples?
    Well sure, they could claim that they were married, but it wouldn't mean anything legally. I'm proposing separating the legal and ceremonial parts of marriage completely. A marriage in a church would just be ceremonial (or it would be your marriage before god if you prefer the religious aspect). It would carry no legal status.

    To get your legal rights (the rights that marriage currently confers) you would just go down to the courthouse and sign the paperwork and it would be official.
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    Re: For people who are against Same Sex Marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    That cant and wont happen and if there is such a way it could gay marriage has no impact on it. It could happen RIGHT NOW if it was possible but its not. Churches dont have to marry anybody they deem unfit and reject straight couples now. and they are protected under the Constitution. Gay marriage doesnt change that.
    A lot of anti-gay-marriage people argue that if gay marriage were legal it wouldn't be long before churches were being forced to marry gays.
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