View Poll Results: It's the fault of....

Voters
51. You may not vote on this poll
  • The shooter

    50 98.04%
  • Glenn Beck

    3 5.88%
  • Sarah Palin

    5 9.80%
  • Rush Limbaugh

    3 5.88%
  • The Tea Party

    4 7.84%
  • The Media

    4 7.84%
  • Video Games

    2 3.92%
  • The shooter's parents

    8 15.69%
  • The gun shop owner

    1 1.96%
  • Other

    5 9.80%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 55

Thread: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

  1. #41
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,867
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The point is that after all these horrific events there has not been any action to change anything … Americans are content to let it ride.
    No action? Are you serious? Do you even know what it takes to buy an over the counter gun now adays?
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  2. #42
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:27 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,751

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    The point is that after all these horrific events there has not been any action to change anything … Americans are content to let it ride.
    There have been many ideas suggested to counter such events - but many of them violate one portion of the constitution or another, or are completely counter to each other in basis.

    For example, two simple (more or less) ideas:

    1. "Emplace more restrictions on weaponry on campus grounds/in public buildings”, and/or “ban X weapon type(s)”.
    2. "Allow people to carry weapons on campus grounds/in public buildings”, and/or “lower restrictions on legal weapon purchase”.

    Obviously, those ideas are counter to each other, but all have been suggested at one point or another after nearly every single event of this type in recent years.

    As you may know, I favor more the second idea type.

    This is because, as far as I am aware, laws designed to control guns have so far had little to no positive effect.

    I ascribe to the notion that if you have armed citizens at the scene who can step in to stop such people mid-stride (by shooting them, in most cases), the number of such incidents will decrease.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  3. #43
    Guru
    GPS_Flex's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    02-11-17 @ 11:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,719

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Oh, you also forgot to include his parents. They would have been my second choice as far as blame goes.

    1: Shooter
    2: Parents
    3: Drugs
    4: Tucson Community College
    5: Pima County Sheriff Dept.
    6: The Zeitgeist Movement

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
    John F. Kennedy
    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

  4. #44
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:24 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,758

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Yup, I think I covered that; for many Americans it's just the price we pay for our liberty “to keep and bear Arms.” Every so often a half dozen to a few dozen of us just have to die; there's no point in altering anything.
    why does freedom cause so many people to wet themselves? sheep love living in pens because without pens a few might be taken by wolves. Of course all of those in pens are at the mercy of the farmer's slaughterhouse



  5. #45
    Dispenser of Negativity
    Cold Highway's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Newburgh, New York and World 8: Dark Land
    Last Seen
    12-24-12 @ 11:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    9,596
    Blog Entries
    7

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why does freedom cause so many people to wet themselves? sheep love living in pens because without pens a few might be taken by wolves. Of course all of those in pens are at the mercy of the farmer's slaughterhouse
    False sense of security seems to be the mentality in my opinion. The false choice of Sheep vs Cattle may play a part as well.
    Jackboots always come in matched pairs, a left boot and a right boot.

  6. #46
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:24 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,758

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    False sense of security seems to be the mentality in my opinion. The false choice of Sheep vs Cattle may play a part as well.
    in the end all the sheep in the pen get sheared castrated or slaughtered.



  7. #47
    User
    Chappy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    San Francisco
    Last Seen
    04-07-15 @ 01:50 AM
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    2,443
    Blog Entries
    26

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Oh, you also forgot to include his parents. They would have been my second choice as far as blame goes.

    1: Shooter
    2: Parents
    3: Drugs
    4: Tucson Community College
    5: Pima County Sheriff Dept.
    6: The Zeitgeist Movement
    Where are you on the list? Where are the Americans who think there's nothing that can be done on the list? Where are the people who think that the general public needs to be able to purchase high capacity magazines on the list? Americans who deny that our lenient laws that cover handgun sales and high capacity magazines had anything to do with the Tucson Massacre, they must come to terms that they are on the list.
    Last edited by Chappy; 01-13-11 at 11:38 PM. Reason: language, grammar
    “Real environmentalists live in cities, and they visit what's left of the wilderness as gently and respectfully as possible.” — Donna Moulton, letter to the editor, Tucson Weekly, published on August 23, 2001

  8. #48
    Sporadic insanity normal.


    The Mark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:27 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    19,751

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Where are you on the list? Where are the Americans who think there's nothing that can be done on the list? Where are the people who think that the general public needs to be able to purchase high capacity magazines on the list? Americans who deny that our lenient laws that cover handgun sales and high capacity magazines, they must come to terms that they are on the list.
    Actually, we think that those who wish to make laws more restrictive regarding gun and gun-related equipment sales are the ones who must come to terms with what seems relatively obvious - that such laws have a negative effect, not a positive one.

    Edit: Not to speak for others, but I think that was accurate...
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

  9. #49
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:24 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,758

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Where are you on the list? Where are the Americans who think there's nothing that can be done on the list? Where are the people who think that the general public needs to be able to purchase high capacity magazines on the list? Americans who deny that our lenient laws that cover handgun sales and high capacity magazines had anything to do with Tucson Massacre, they must come to terms that they are on the list.
    sorry dude-exercising constitutional freedoms is never to be blamed for the criminal depradations of another.

    that you are afraid of guns and freedom only reflects on you and we who are not need not feel responsible for a mad man.



  10. #50
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:24 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,758

    Re: Who/What is at fault for the mass shooting in AZ? (choose all that apply)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Actually, we think that those who wish to make laws more restrictive regarding gun and gun-related equipment sales are the ones who must come to terms with what seems relatively obvious - that such laws have a negative effect, not a positive one.

    Edit: Not to speak for others, but I think that was accurate...
    works for me



Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst ... 3456 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •