How did he manage to shave his head and eyebrows? I take it this happened after being in jail as in the initial reports they described a young man with short hair as the shooter.
I guess if they allow you to shave in jail you can simply shave all your hair. It looks to me like an intelligent person trying to appears nuts to save his arse.
The man's clearly guilty, and the man should suffer the full consequences of the legal system for it.
However, I might note that the full consequences must be life imprisonment, and not the death sentence, because the death sentence is a barbaric and draconic practise that has rightfully been discontinued in all Western nations but one.
yeah, I prefer the mope be buggered to death for years rather than put to sleep painlessly
He should get the death penalty. The fact he may or may not be nuts is irrelevant to the fact he killed and shot a bunch of people.
What?
Being crazy means you aren't responsible for your actions, because you can't exercise deliberative control of your behavior.
The gravity of your deeds can't alter whether or not you are crazy.
With the evidence that has been in the news against Loughner if ever there was a case for capital punishment this is one. Enough people saw him do the shooting. Two people at the event captured him and kept him from leaving the scene. They have found a note written by him suggesting he was planning to kill the Congresswoman. There is no doubt in my mind this Loughner did the crime.
IMO, the trail should be limited to no more than a week. When found guilty the sentance should be death. The second week would be the apeal to the death sentance. This would should be limited to more than 1 day of court time. The sentance should be carried out immediatly after the appeal is turned down. Of course I know this won't happen and hundred of thousands of dollars (maybe millions) will be wasted in court time.
What?
Being crazy means you aren't responsible for your actions, because you can't exercise deliberative control over your behavior.
The gravity of your deeds can't alter whether or not you are crazy.
I don't see the point of having complex legal, psychiatric, and moral categories if a person guilt's ultimately derives from how upset people are at him. It's like the categories only exist in case we feel like indulging them, not because it is a matter of ethics or principle.
I don't think he should be killed, because he's just a young man, and he has his whole life ahead of him (albeit most of that life is now ruined, and he has no one to blame for that but himself).
He's innocent though, for now. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
What?
Being crazy means you aren't responsible for your actions, because you can't exercise deliberative control over your behavior.
The gravity of your deeds can't alter whether or not you are crazy.
I don't see the point of having complex legal, psychiatric, and moral categories if a person guilt's ultimately derives from how upset people are at him. It's like the categories only exist in case we feel like indulging them, not because it is a matter of ethics or principle.
in the early 70's I had a physc prof tell me he did not believe in innocent by reason of insanity, he did believe in guilty but insane. The reason is even the most insane person makes decisions. They may look at the world differently and precieve actions differentyl, but that is not an excuse. Maybe it is time we reduce the complexity of psychiatric catagories.
Then, with someone as dangerous as that, they've no choice but to lock him up out of fear of him attempting another similar stunt. His actions dictate his life, not his intents. That's true for everyone.
Yes and no. He is indeed mentally unstable, but he still knows right from wrong (or so it seems according to reports.) He knew what he was doing was wrong. That is the difference. Just being mentally deficient is not enough.
He's innocent though, for now. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Agreed. So give the DA one day to present the evidence, and one day for a defense. Based on what evidence the DA has, don't you agree that this is a pretty cut/dried case?
His gun, witness seeing him use the gun, caught and held at the scene, notes in his room about wanting to kill the person, etc.
Oops no need for a trial someone shot the bastard. Damn.
in the early 70's I had a physc prof tell me he did not believe in innocent by reason of insanity, he did believe in guilty but insane. The reason is even the most insane person makes decisions. They may look at the world differently and precieve actions differentyl, but that is not an excuse. Maybe it is time we reduce the complexity of psychiatric catagories.
But actually winning or having a sentence reduced by te insanity defense is extremely difficult and very rare.
How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?