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    How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    How did he manage to shave his head and eyebrows? I take it this happened after being in jail as in the initial reports they described a young man with short hair as the shooter.

    I guess if they allow you to shave in jail you can simply shave all your hair. It looks to me like an intelligent person trying to appears nuts to save his arse.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    With the evidence that has been in the news against Loughner if ever there was a case for capital punishment this is one. Enough people saw him do the shooting. Two people at the event captured him and kept him from leaving the scene. They have found a note written by him suggesting he was planning to kill the Congresswoman. There is no doubt in my mind this Loughner did the crime.

    IMO, the trail should be limited to no more than a week. When found guilty the sentance should be death. The second week would be the apeal to the death sentance. This would should be limited to more than 1 day of court time. The sentance should be carried out immediatly after the appeal is turned down. Of course I know this won't happen and hundred of thousands of dollars (maybe millions) will be wasted in court time.
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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    The man's clearly guilty, and the man should suffer the full consequences of the legal system for it.

    However, I might note that the full consequences must be life imprisonment, and not the death sentence, because the death sentence is a barbaric and draconic practise that has rightfully been discontinued in all Western nations but one.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    How did he manage to shave his head and eyebrows? I take it this happened after being in jail as in the initial reports they described a young man with short hair as the shooter.

    I guess if they allow you to shave in jail you can simply shave all your hair. It looks to me like an intelligent person trying to appears nuts to save his arse.
    Honestly - he comes across as the Mickey type (Natural Born Killers) - I think he's tryig to pull his "moment of realization" out of his ass.

    I don't *prefer* the death penalty - but he obviously would pose a threat every moment he's allowed to live to the guards and other inmates at any facility. Statistics show that those on death row who truly have no hope for appeal or change go to great lengths to try to bring everyone else down with them. If he, in some insane ranting and malicious assault, manages to permanently injure a guard or even kill one I think that's one more tragic death that should be avoided at his hands.

    But If they can bring him down a few notches I'd rather he live the rest of his days thinking things over - no sense in putting the fool down to sleep if that's what he wants.

    I oppose the death penalty when it would satisfy the assailant - I think there's no worse punishment than having to tolerate yourself.
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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The man's clearly guilty, and the man should suffer the full consequences of the legal system for it.

    However, I might note that the full consequences must be life imprisonment, and not the death sentence, because the death sentence is a barbaric and draconic practise that has rightfully been discontinued in all Western nations but one.
    yeah, I prefer the mope be buggered to death for years rather than put to sleep painlessly



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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah, I prefer the mope be buggered to death for years rather than put to sleep painlessly
    I'm glad you agree -- I thought I'd get some heated debate on the death sentence bit.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    He should get the death penalty. The fact he may or may not be nuts is irrelevant to the fact he killed and shot a bunch of people.
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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    In this case, I see little difference between life in prison or the death sentence given the overwhelming evidence. Whichever option wastes the least resources should be used.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    He should get the death penalty. The fact he may or may not be nuts is irrelevant to the fact he killed and shot a bunch of people.
    What?

    Being crazy means you aren't responsible for your actions, because you can't exercise deliberative control over your behavior.

    The gravity of your deeds can't alter whether or not you are crazy.

    I don't see the point of having complex legal, psychiatric, and moral categories if a person guilt's ultimately derives from how upset people are at him. It's like the categories only exist in case we feel like indulging them, not because it is a matter of ethics or principle.
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