View Poll Results: How do you think the Arizona shooter's courtcase should end?

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  • Imprisonment, For Life

    7 20.00%
  • Death Row

    14 40.00%
  • Imprisoned, But Not For Life

    0 0%
  • Mental Institution, For Life

    7 20.00%
  • Mental Institution, Until Rehabilitated

    2 5.71%
  • He should be found innocent / not guilty

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    5 14.29%
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Thread: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Loughner will be pissing his pants, on his way to die. He's going to know that he's just a few short minutes away from whatever awaits him. That's punishment. I don't care what anyone says.
    I don't understand how anyone can condone the death penalty under a moral guise. It's impossible to claim the moral highground against a killer by reciprocating the action unto him -- it negates any moral authority the legal system has. Life imprisonment is the fair and correct choice for the most heinous of crimes.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I don't understand how anyone can condone the death penalty under a moral guise. It's impossible to claim the moral highground against a killer by reciprocating the action unto him -- it negates any moral authority the legal system has. Life imprisonment is the fair and correct choice for the most heinous of crimes.
    The DP is highly "moral". Utilizing it shows that we value life by exacting the ultimate price for taking it.
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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    I think this case should end at the gallows without appeal the morning after this piece of excrement is found guilty and sentenced to death.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The DP is highly "moral". Utilizing it shows that we value life by exacting the ultimate price for taking it.
    No. That's not how a civilised legal system works. An eye for an eye was a great principle three thousand years ago, but it is outdated and draconic now -- we have advanced beyond that.

    When you punish someone for doing something, you can't utilise the same action as the one they were taking, to punish them. You have no moral authority that way.

    When someone punches you, the moral act is not to punch them back, but rather to detain them and let them serve time. If you punch them back, you're only escalating the situation.

    If someone kills people, the government can not kill them back -- else we're no better than the original criminal.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    If someone kills people, the government can not kill them back -- else we're no better than the original criminal.
    There is a difference between the type of people being killed, and that difference makes all of the moral difference in the world.

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    Re: How do you think the AZ shooter's courtcase should end?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The DP is highly "moral". Utilizing it shows that we value life by exacting the ultimate price for taking it.
    People claim that, but I don't see how it's true. All you've done is made life itself a commodity under the control of the government. To me the DP lowers the value of life by making it nothing more than an arguing point in court. If we were to really uphold the high value of human life we would say that even though someone did something so horrible that we may want revenge, we will still not allow the state to take that person's life. Logically, that seems to uphold the value of human life well more than assigning it a value and then weighing it against other evidence.
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