View Poll Results: Were the Nazis...

Voters
245. You may not vote on this poll
  • Predominantly Right Wing

    123 50.20%
  • Predominantly Left Wing

    75 30.61%
  • Largely in the center

    18 7.35%
  • Don't know/unsure/no opinion/none of the above

    29 11.84%
Page 29 of 42 FirstFirst ... 19272829303139 ... LastLast
Results 281 to 290 of 411

Thread: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

  1. #281
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    U.S.
    Last Seen
    06-17-12 @ 09:49 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    415

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    I agree on this, if you are using left-right in the traditional and not the economic sense.

  2. #282
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,766

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    I agree on this, if you are using left-right in the traditional and not the economic sense.
    to accomplish leftwing dreams concerning economics lots of dead bodies are gonna happen

  3. #283
    Sage
    pbrauer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    11-27-15 @ 03:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,394

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinS View Post
    Anyone who calls the Nazis far-left is either:

    1) Misinformed
    2) Trying to insult left-wingers by comparing them to Nazis
    How about just plain stupid?

  4. #284
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    U.S.
    Last Seen
    06-17-12 @ 09:49 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    415

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude
    to accomplish leftwing dreams concerning economics lots of dead bodies are gonna happen
    It depends on the degree of left-ness. Communism, when implemented, usually will result in mass deaths. This is because communist leaders tend to use authoritarian means to get what they want. Communist thinkers, however, are largely non-violent ideologically.
    Last edited by JustinS; 12-02-11 at 10:59 PM.

  5. #285
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    U.S.
    Last Seen
    06-17-12 @ 09:49 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    415

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer
    How about just plain stupid?
    Not necessarily. Many people look at the official name - National Socialism - and instantly assume "Hey, the Nazis were socialist, and therefore radical left-wingers!" Others are simply manipulative, though.

  6. #286
    Guru
    LuckyDan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Carrollton, TX
    Last Seen
    05-13-13 @ 11:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,758

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    I think in terms of quadrants.

    Social cons/economic cons are cons.
    Social libs/economic libs are libs.
    Social cons/Eco libs are populists
    Social libs/Eco cons are libertarians

    I'd put the nazis in the populist camp, along with their fascism. Libs and cons can be fascists equally, tho I'd say America's current fascist bent rests more with the libs. ("One per center." "Homophobe." Lib terms. And fascist.)

    Edit: On second thought, I can't think of a time when cons were fascist. I withdraw that portion.
    Last edited by LuckyDan; 12-02-11 at 11:02 PM.

  7. #287
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    U.S.
    Last Seen
    06-17-12 @ 09:49 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    415

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    No, Democrats (if that is what you mean by liberals) are much less authoritarian and economically are slightly more right-wing than fascists.

    Both American liberals and American conservatives are far away from fascism. Conservatives are closer in social policies and farther in economic policies, but liberals are closer in economic policies and farther in social policies.
    Last edited by JustinS; 12-02-11 at 11:06 PM.

  8. #288
    User
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Last Seen
    01-20-12 @ 02:15 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19
    Left or right makes no difference the extremes of both attract persons that desire power over anything else. When they get that power they will become authoritarian. It may be a cliche but power does corrupt.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

  9. #289
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,763

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    This is the wrong kind of question to ask, because the answer is neither. Fascism, of course, is right wing, in that it calls for corporate control of government. Nazism did incorporate Fascism, but on it's own merit, it is not right wing, due to many of it's planks which called for extermination of Jews and the promotion of the Aryan race. These views cannot be considered either right or left wing, as they are exclusive to Nazism itself, and not a part of Fascism, which again, is defined as corporate control of the government. Fascism itself is not necessarily a bad thing, if that is what the people of a nation want. Same with Communism - If the people want it, the people can have it. However, right wing Fascism, and left wing Communism as well, almost always involve Statism, in which the rights of the people are supressed. This is why they are such dirty words in America, where we have been indoctrinated from birth to enjoy the freedoms we have. As Americans, we should consider ourselves lucky that we are not under Fascist or Communist dictatorships, which is why we should hold our Constitution and Bill of Rights as sacred documents, not to be trifled with. For once they are, we begin the long side down the slippery slope that eventually leads to either Fascism, Communism, or in the very worst case, a form of government not that far removed from Nazism. America - Love it. Live it. Defend it from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Once we lose even part of it, then we have lost everything.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  10. #290
    Guru
    LuckyDan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Carrollton, TX
    Last Seen
    05-13-13 @ 11:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,758

    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is the wrong kind of question to ask, because the answer is neither. Fascism, of course, is right wing, in that it calls for corporate control of government. Nazism did incorporate Fascism, but on it's own merit, it is not right wing, due to many of it's planks which called for extermination of Jews and the promotion of the Aryan race. These views cannot be considered either right or left wing, as they are exclusive to Nazism itself, and not a part of Fascism, which again, is defined as corporate control of the government. Fascism itself is not necessarily a bad thing, if that is what the people of a nation want. Same with Communism - If the people want it, the people can have it. However, right wing Fascism, and left wing Communism as well, almost always involve Statism, in which the rights of the people are supressed. This is why they are such dirty words in America, where we have been indoctrinated from birth to enjoy the freedoms we have. As Americans, we should consider ourselves lucky that we are not under Fascist or Communist dictatorships, which is why we should hold our Constitution and Bill of Rights as sacred documents, not to be trifled with. For once they are, we begin the long side down the slippery slope that eventually leads to either Fascism, Communism, or in the very worst case, a form of government not that far removed from Nazism. America - Love it. Live it. Defend it from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Once we lose even part of it, then we have lost everything.
    Fascism has nothing to do with business or corporations. It has to do with indoctrination and social engineering, and it needs a state enemy, be that enemy a Jew, or a smoker, or a one-percenter, or a homophobe, or even (more to my point in our present time) a businessman.

    At least, that is how I have always understood the term. If I'm wrong I welcome correction.

Page 29 of 42 FirstFirst ... 19272829303139 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •