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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    see, that's the problem.

    Right-wing/Left-wing in the USA is VERY different than Right-wing/Left-wing in Europe.

    But many Conservatives dishonestly ignore this.

    The best image of American & European politics, is a square, divided into four. Up is authoritarian, down is Libertarian. Left is socially-liberal....Right is socially-conservative.

    One can be a right-wing Libertatian, a right-wing Authoritarian, a left-wing Libertarian, and a right-wing Libertarian.

    what were the Nazis? they were right-wing Authoritarians. The Soviets were left-wing Authoritarians.

    today's American Conservatives are mostly right-wing Libertarians, except on issues of drugs, abortion, crime, and terrorism.

    American Liberal/Progressives are mostly left-wing Authoritarians, except on drugs, crime, death penalty, free-speech, religion, and press, and abortion.
    Actually late 19th century and early 20th century progressives are the closest American equivalent to type of fascism practiced by the Nazis.
    There ideologies shared the most similar beliefs.
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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Actually late 19th century and early 20th century progressives are the closest American equivalent to type of fascism practiced by the Nazis.
    There ideologies shared the most similar beliefs.
    20th century American Progressives believed in a dictatorship, police-state, scapegoating of minorities and foreigners, anti-Semitism, and homophobia??????

    evidence please.

    and no, Madison Grant was NOT a "Progressive".
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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    20th century American Progressives believed in a dictatorship, police-state, scapegoating of minorities and foreigners, anti-Semitism, and homophobia??????

    evidence please.
    Late 19th century and early 20th century progressives.
    Pay attention.

    Both held the views of scientific racism, a separation of the classes and state management of the economy and the people.

    The Nazis drew a lot of their beliefs from the principles set out my the German monarchy, which was very popular during the Progressive era and which is were we drew a lot of ideas from, like the creation of the state mandated education.
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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Based on what?
    How about "The New American Century" and our previous conquerors of Iraq. Is it from the Edison Institute or something like that?

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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Did we come to a conclusion yet?

    Left, right, center, north, south, east, or west?

    Nazi = crazy birds.

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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    And you know very well, at least now, that not all products from China are inferior.
    True, they make some of the very best table tennis gear. I use "friendship 729-5 on my forehand and 802 on my backhand and my son uses a "blue thunder" bat with "gambler" pre tuned 2.1 Outlaw on his forehand and "four kings" 1.8 on his backhand. All Chinese made. a third the cost of the Butterfly (Japan) or DONIC (Germany) gear I used to compete with and just as good

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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    True, they make some of the very best table tennis gear. I use "friendship 729-5 on my forehand and 802 on my backhand and my son uses a "blue thunder" bat with "gambler" pre tuned 2.1 Outlaw on his forehand and "four kings" 1.8 on his backhand. All Chinese made. a third the cost of the Butterfly (Japan) or DONIC (Germany) gear I used to compete with and just as good
    The vast majority of people are completely ignorant on where a lot of the components of the stuff in their homes come from.
    Even stuff that says "made in America" likely has parts that were made in China, India, somewhere else.

    But that little deceptive tag, tricks them into comfort and they assume that their favorite "made in America" items are superior to all else.
    Total ridiculous crap.
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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Did we come to a conclusion yet?

    Left, right, center, north, south, east, or west?

    Nazi = crazy birds.
    the NSDAP was for the most part, right-wing Authoritarian.

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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Late 19th century and early 20th century progressives.
    Pay attention.

    Both held the views of scientific racism, a separation of the classes and state management of the economy and the people.
    By scientific racism, are you talking about the National Parks System?

    And those child labor laws, evil state management, eh??

    In all seriousness, you haven't got a clue about turn of the century progressives. Why not do some research before running your mouth again....

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    Re: Were the Nazis Right or Left Wing?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    By scientific racism, are you talking about the National Parks System?

    And those child labor laws, evil state management, eh??

    In all seriousness, you haven't got a clue about turn of the century progressives. Why not do some research before running your mouth again....
    Abolotionists, women's suffragists, etc etc.

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