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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    You guys are kinda silly with your magazine capacity ban talk.

    1-Maybe what needs to change is the lay down and die victim mentality. Dont wait til the guy runs out of ammo.
    2-Any practiced shooter can do a tactical reload with 15 round magazines and lay out 45+ rounds without a full second delay. We can count ourselves lucky this guy was a moron as well as an imbalanced narcissist and not someone truly dedicated to killing as many as he could.
    3-Weve all seen the videos of two body armor clad bank robbers in Hollywood firing full automatic weapons (that were banned). Criminals get guns. They break laws. Like illegal drugs, criminals get machine guns, high capacity magazines, etc.

    Face it. You dont like guns...ANY guns...and ANY excuse to attack them at any level you can. The magazine capacity bans of the past did NOTHING. It had ZERO impact (look up the word "pre-ban"). It WILL do nothing.

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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Really? Should the sale of high capacity magazines be allowed? Who needs such things?
    who are you to ask? I'll ask again since you have not answered the question to which you pulled this response from. We have laws against robbing banks, banks are still being robbed will more laws stop bank robbing? My point is more gun laws will not imo stop or significanly reduce the types of events that happened in AZ. So why do you think more laws will stop the type of event?

    To answer one of your questions to another poster. Who owns or wants a gun like the shooter has. I have a glock 17 and a glock 26. all are 9mm. I do a lot of hiking/backpacking into remote areas.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Ok Ill play the dumb question game, Already answered this but Ill do it again. I may not be up on the latest points of the story so I have to have a disclaimer. If what i know is true so far about AZ gun laws and him.

    My answer is YES

    also just to comment on you ridiculous ASSumption "As many as ten people shot or killed on Saturday may have been saved by that alone." this is PURE fantasy. This is called appeal to emotion even though there is NO supporting evidence what so ever. NONE
    Soon there will be an accounting of each bullet fired by the AZ shooter and we will then know who was hit by bullets 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31. We will know their names and their fates. And your Yes vote will be one more straw that assures that the next shooter perhaps in your town will have a high capacity magazine so he can fire bullets 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31 without re-loading and we will know his victims names and fates, too, and hope that yours is not among them.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Soon there will be an accounting of each bullet fired by the AZ shooter and we will then know who was hit by bullets 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31. We will know their names and their fates. And your Yes vote will be one more straw that assures that the next shooter perhaps in your town will have a high capacity magazine so he can fire bullets 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31 without re-loading and we will know his victims names and fates, too, and hope that yours is not among them.
    Do you really believe a law will stop criminals from somehow obtaining these types of clips?
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Soon there will be an accounting of each bullet fired by the AZ shooter and we will then know who was hit by bullets 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31. We will know their names and their fates. And your Yes vote will be one more straw that assures that the next shooter perhaps in your town will have a high capacity magazine so he can fire bullets 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31 without re-loading and we will know his victims names and fates, too, and hope that yours is not among them.

    LMAO!!!!! hahahahahahahahah
    Like I said Im an adult, i dont buy into your scare tatics that rank up there with the boogie man

    what if he just bought 2 guns? or got clips on the black market or off a friend, or stole them off a relitive etc etc etc
    what if he couldnt get a gun and drove his moms explorer into the crowd?
    what if he was a good shot and had a gun that held 10 bullets and one in the chamber and pulled off 10 head or kill shots?
    is the fantasy what if game fun LMAO

    again when you have some solid a hardcore let me know

    So again how would you magically fix this so called problem with something that is proven to work?

    The problem was HIM, not the gun, not the clip LMAO
    HE was the problem.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    I would like to change my answer to no. Turns out he was arrested for drug possession, something that would show up on a federal background check, but those charges weren't kept on his record. He also failed drug tests which kept him out of the Army. But in our society drugs are illegal but permissible. Even Obama's administration has decided not to enforce some federal drug laws, especially in states that have legalized forms of drug use. So no, he shouldn't have been allowed to buy a gun and wouldn't have been allowed to if the system had worked and local law enforcement had done their job.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Yes ?????
    And with enough bullets to murdrer many , many people...
    My first vote was "other", as I recall.
    The question is this..
    What is more important? ..A man's right to life or another's right to own a weapon?

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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Let's see? In 1998, a National Academy of Sciences panel of scientists and security experts recommended that Congress require buyers of ammonium nitrate to provide identification and that stores keep records of the purchases. But a law was never passed.

    Some states regulate the sale, most don't. Any criminal could get it from those other states or many places outside the US.

    Sorry you argument still holds no water at all and neither does your link.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Yes ?????
    And with enough bullets to murdrer many , many people...
    My first vote was "other", as I recall.
    The question is this..
    What is more important? ..A man's right to life or another's right to own a weapon?
    Without the right to own a weapon, we would have a rough time protecting the other.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    I would like to change my answer to no. Turns out he was arrested for drug possession, something that would show up on a federal background check, but those charges weren't kept on his record. He also failed drug tests which kept him out of the Army. But in our society drugs are illegal but permissible. Even Obama's administration has decided not to enforce some federal drug laws, especially in states that have legalized forms of drug use. So no, he shouldn't have been allowed to buy a gun and wouldn't have been allowed to if the system had worked and local law enforcement had done their job.
    If it was a misdemeanor drug arrest as in the case of pot, it would not be on a Federal data base. The military drug test again is not kept in any data base. If it is not a felony conviction, it would not, and should not matter.
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