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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Really? Should the sale of high capacity magazines be allowed? Who needs such things?
    Keep you laws off my rights.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Stricter controls on fertilizer? I can go right now and buy some no questions asked. Also a convicted felon or someone found to be mentally deficient can buy fertilizer.

    You mist want to back up your statement with some proof.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It does not take long to eject an empty magazine and to load a full one.
    Just long enough for the shooter to have been taken down in this case.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    guess you didnt actually read any of that? LMAO
    your claim was "We actually control access to fertilizer more than we do to handguns"
    you blanket statement was NOT true.

    Either way its still you focusing on the wrong thing.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    … I do not want you anti-2nd amendment «insulting term» getting a baby step. …
    And there it is, the slippery slope argument: We mustn't make our laws more stringent even when it is very, very clear that we have been too lax in our oversight because to do so opens the door to more and more reasonable handgun regulation. Hence, America must continue to suffer these assaults on our senses and insults to our intelligence because to acknowledge them, to act on them is to finally come to terms with our handgun obsession. And, for many Americans, they're just not ready to do that, some likely never will be.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    And there it is, the slippery slope argument: We mustn't make our laws more stringent even when it is very, very clear that we have been too lax in our oversight because to do so opens the door to more and more reasonable handgun regulation. Hence, America must continue to suffer these assaults on our senses and insults to our intelligence because to acknowledge them, to act on them is to finally come to terms with our handgun obsession. And, for many Americans, they're just not ready to do that, some likely never will be.
    or the other side of the coin suffer being attacked and DEFINITELY not having a means of defense, convenient how you leave that out.
    The only person in this thread I think that has a handgun obsession is you

    Its probably in the thread but tell me what your magical fix is? and where and why would it work?
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Fact of the matter is crazy people do crazy ****, cant change that, and if guns laws would get too strict it would hurt more than help. it wouldnt stop the vast majority of criminals from getting guns, the checks and balances we have now are fine IMO. At least here in PA.

    Make checks and balances and laws is not ALWAYS the answer if its just going to harm the avg person.

    Its mainly like drugs, drugs are illegal, who has trouble getting them? LOL
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    … tell me what your … fix is? …
    Let's start with answering the question: Should the AZ shooter have been able to purchase a high capacity 30-round magazine for his Glock 19?

    My answer is no. There's no public need for such things; there should be laws banning stuff like that. As many as ten people shot or killed on Saturday may have been saved by that alone. What say you?
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because of the reaction times of the defenders. It would take the same amount of time for them to get passed the initial shock, determine where the fire was coming from and then react. So, one 30 round mag, or two 15 round mags; I don't think it would have made much difference, if any.
    You really didn't answer my question about your claim, "How does using a 15 round magazine give the shooter a "higher probability of reloading and engaging more targets?"



    History has proven that it won't reduce hand gun deaths. So, at the end of the day, all you've accomplished is violating the rights of American citizens.
    Statistics and history show us that we have more handgun deaths than other countries with more strict gun control. What rights of American citizens are violated to ban high capacity magazines? Does the ban against anti-aircraft weapons present a violation of the rights of American citizens? What about cop-killing bullets, or plastic guns?
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Let's start with answering the question: Should the AZ shooter have been able to purchase a high capacity 30-round magazine for his Glock 19?

    My answer is no. There's no public need for such things; there should be laws banning stuff like that. As many as ten people shot or killed on Saturday may have been saved by that alone. What say you?

    Ok Ill play the dumb question game, Already answered this but Ill do it again. I may not be up on the latest points of the story so I have to have a disclaimer. If what i know is true so far about AZ gun laws and him.

    My answer is YES

    also just to comment on you ridiculous ASSumption "As many as ten people shot or killed on Saturday may have been saved by that alone." this is PURE fantasy. This is called appeal to emotion even though there is NO supporting evidence what so ever. NONE
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