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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    ]And I completely disagree.

    So people need to take drug tests to buy a gun, and people who scare people should not be allowed to purchase a gun?

    Caveat: I’m not clear on what precisely happened in this college situation.
    Only if we wish to address the problem of mass killings by citizens with guns in this country. No other country has such a problem. Are we incapable of solving, or at least reducing it?

    In answer to your first question: Yes.

    In answer to your second question: Think of all the uses tanks could be put too, after they are retired… And, fishing... :mrgreen
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    Let me know if you change your mind and decide to have a serious discussion.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    America is a gun country with a gun culture. It is part of the American psyche. If there is any one thing that unites the people residing in this country it is gun ownership.

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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only if we wish to address the problem of mass killings by citizens with guns in this country. No other country has such a problem. Are we incapable of solving, or at least reducing it?
    Mandatory training in proper firearm care/handling for all citizens without preventative disabilities and/or religious/philosophical oppositions to the use of firearms.
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    Let me know if you change your mind and decide to have a serious discussion.
    No, seriously.

    Think of the possible uses you could put tanks too in civilian usage.

    The drive train/chassis could be used as the basis for a variety of transportation purposes, if sufficiently modified.

    I'm sure about the specifics of the varied rounds for the main gun, but I'm sure some use for a large gun could be found. Hell, with enough changes to maritime law, cargo and cruise ships could have tank-turrets retrofitted if they operated in pirate-infested waters. Then use the drive train/chassis could be converted into various off-road transportation vehicles, and whatever you could think up...

    And you can fish with hand-grenades.

    But outside that, you could potentially use them for demolition, blasting, and the like.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only if we wish to address the problem of mass killings by citizens with guns in this country. No other country has such a problem. Are we incapable of solving, or at least reducing it?
    Oh really?

    Monash University in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on October 21, 2002.
    November 26–28, 2008 - 2008 Mumbai attacks in India.
    September 4, 2004: Beslan school hostage crisis in Russia.
    C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007.
    Dunblane massacre Dunblane, United Kingdom March 13 1996 18.
    Erfurt massacre Erfurt, Germany April 26 2002 17.
    Kauhajoki school shooting Kauhajoki, Finland September 23 2008
    Azerbaijan State Oil Academy shooting Baku, Azerbaijan April 30, 2009

    No it is a problem world wide even in country's with very restrictive gun laws.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Oh really?

    Monash University in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on October 21, 2002.
    November 26–28, 2008 - 2008 Mumbai attacks in India.
    September 4, 2004: Beslan school hostage crisis in Russia.
    C. W. Jefferys Collegiate Institute shooting Toronto, Ontario, Canada May 23 2007.
    Dunblane massacre Dunblane, United Kingdom March 13 1996 18.
    Erfurt massacre Erfurt, Germany April 26 2002 17.
    Kauhajoki school shooting Kauhajoki, Finland September 23 2008
    Azerbaijan State Oil Academy shooting Baku, Azerbaijan April 30, 2009

    No it is a problem world wide even in country's with very restrictive gun laws.
    Compare the frequency of mass shootings though.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Compare the frequency of mass shootings though.
    Most country's including your own are experiencing ballooning gun crime despite stricter laws. They are increasing in frequency, the US is about the same with some varying from state to state. In fact gun crime over all in the US is at an all time low.

    http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...=206&issue=007
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Single events in different countries do not compare with the 20 mass shootings per year clocked up in the USA.
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Single events in different countries do not compare with the 20 mass shootings per year clocked up in the USA.
    20 a year?
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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Right wing hate rhetoric is no bar to gun ownership?

    If the Army doesn't trust you with a gun, shouldn't that bar you from civilian access?
    serving in the army is not a constitutional right



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    Re: Should the AZ shooter have been able to buy a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Of course, the problem is that there was multiple times this man's mental state was questioned. However, he was able to purchase the gun and go on a murder spree. What about the rights and due process of the victims.
    the laws against murder and the punishment thereof is their recourse



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