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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Thank you for this. Folks have been saying that the left hasn't been blaming the TEA party for this, and now you come along and do exactly that.
    This is what X Factor said that I took issue with. He used "the left" as a general term applied to all liberal people.
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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This is what X Factor said that I took issue with. He used "the left" as a general term applied to all liberal people.
    You quoted the other so I assumed you meant that.

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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You quoted the other so I assumed you meant that.

    Next time be more careful so you don't confuse the black man.
    I originally quoted that just a few post up
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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I think the suggestion that since the "tea party", as a whole...IE the movement as a whole, the membership as the whole...were wrongly accused as being that which fueled this attack that the movement, the people, as a whole should be apologized to. Not that some individual figure head should get apologized to.
    I get that. I just don't think that a loosely allied conglomeration of small groups who deflected criticism by pointing out that they weren't an organized bunch deserve to be apologized to as if they were in fact a group of people.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This is what X Factor said that I took issue with. He used "the left" as a general term applied to all liberal people.
    Well, aren't liberal people generally on the left?
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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Have you ever noticed that? When people try to choose people to represent the left, they always choose unhinged people. Its like saying all conservatives are like Glenn Beck.
    Are you saying Earthworm is unhinged?
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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Are you saying Earhworm is unhinged?
    I plead the fifth.

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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I get that. I just don't think that a loosely allied conglomeration of small groups who deflected criticism by pointing out that they weren't an organized bunch deserve to be apologized to as if they were in fact a group of people.
    How can you claim you "get that" then turn around and completely discard it? Seems to me, you didn't "get" it at all.
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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, aren't liberal people generally on the left?
    Completely missed my point. You used earthworms comments, and applied it to all liberal people by using the term "the left"
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    Re: Does the media owe the TEA party an apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I get that. I just don't think that a loosely allied conglomeration of small groups who deflected criticism by pointing out that they weren't an organized bunch deserve to be apologized to as if they were in fact a group of people.
    I get that, but I disagree with your basic premise. If one portion of that loose group does something stupid and the rest don't do or say or think the same thing, and then people condemn the whole, the Tea Party got upset by the suggestions that a lone groups actions represented what ALL of them thought.

    The flip side to that, to fit what you're saying, would be to say that if a particular portion of the Tea Party suddenly got praise that they start shouting "you should give us ALL praise" even though the rest of the tea party isn't by and large doing that same action.

    That isn't the case here though. Once again, just like during the election, you have a broad scale condemnation of "the tea party" as a whole for something that the tea party as a whole had, seemingly at this point, nothing to do with. Just like at the election, the anger is for condemning the entire group for actions that by and large aren't attributed to the vast majority of the group.

    There's no inconsistancy. Its just an extention of what was going on in the election...with the group as a whole being tired of being misrepresented by the actions of a few, or in this case seemingly by the actions of someone not even directly involved in the group.

    Again, my stance on the whole apology thing is known. I don't think they should owe them one, or that the tea party should demand one. I just don't see the big contradiction here that you're trying to make...in reality I see a clear consistant pattern of how the tea party identifies itself.
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