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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It compiled - that's what I said:



    I should have re-read my post and edited for clarity - but you get my point.
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    Quoting to you and the post within yours:

    The Holy Roman Empire WROTE the Bible.
    Really? You said WROTE, which is a complete fallacy. The Chruch ommitted certain books from the Holy Scriptures because they were not deemed as the holy inspired word of God by people who have far more expertise in the subject than either you or I have...
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I don't doubt that Islam took an overt part in the conquest of Arabia, however, I can't find any sources on the reasons behind the conquest of North Africa, and the conquest of Levant seemed to me to be a war of opportunity, as the Muslims had just united after fighting the War of Apostasy, and Levant was not yet back under firm Roman control due to the last Persian (or should that be Zoroastrianist) invasion, and the main defences of the region were built to protect against more Persian aggression, rather than an invasion from the south.
    The war between the Safavid Empire and the Roman Empire left both to be basically sitting ducks for the expanding Muslim empire. The Safavid's fell, opening up the Indian subcontinent and Central Asia to expanding Islamic influence while the Roman empire was only saved by the fact that the defenses around Constantinople were near impregnible until the technical innovations that the Ottomans had centuries later...
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    I voted for Christianity mostly because I was thinking local and modern day.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Eh, I think that, contrary to a lot of Americans' fear-driven beliefs, Islam isn't really trying to expand any more, either. Now, I do agree that, for the most part, the Middle-East is a rather unpleasant place (to use our famous British understatement), and that's largely due to Islam.

    But Islam certainly isn't trying to spread into Europe, as so many Americans seem to think, and the only advances it has made have been through small immmigration floes, like refugees or migrant workers, and they don't amount to anything like colonisation. More importantly, Islam doesn't factor into the reason why some Muslims come to Europe -- so I'd say that, whether Islam is growing or not, it's certainly not expanding into Europe.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Christianity got out of the holy war business a long time ago
    It hasn't been as long as you think.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam? When I say "pushy" I mean which religion did more to spread itself by any means necessary and which one had more oppressive governments?

    For me, it's Christianity, seeing as how it was spread from Europe around the world and was used as a reason to screw over the indigenous peoples of the world.
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Historically? The Crusades and Inquisition are often mentioned, but less commonly spoken of is the Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, the Muslim invasion of Eastern Europe, the Moors invasion of Spain.

    Modern Christianity does not expand by the sword, or execute "heretics".

    Modern Islam does.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Yes, the Koran calls for blood when spreading religion, the Bible does not.
    I hope that was sarcasm.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam? When I say "pushy" I mean which religion did more to spread itself by any means necessary and which one had more oppressive governments?

    For me, it's Christianity, seeing as how it was spread from Europe around the world and was used as a reason to screw over the indigenous peoples of the world.
    oh. well by the standard you have set up... for history (rather than 'for me'), it would be Islam. The Prophet himself said that he who died without taking part in a campaign against the unbelievers died in a sort of unbelief himself.
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by CompSciGuy View Post
    I voted for Christianity mostly because I was thinking local and modern day.
    if you went modern day, how on earth did you vote Christianity?

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