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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Islam is far more pushy. First of all we have many world nations that have an Islamic government that pushes Islam on the populace. You also see in these countries a huge violation of freedom of religion. Many of these countries persecute Christians, have laws against proselytizing, kill those who leave Islam, and all sorts of things. To my knowledge no Christian theocracy does this (or if one even exists).
    I guess we aren't counting Uganda on this one, right, where homosexuality is now punishable with death.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Does the fact that Chomsky is quoted make the overall story less viable?
    The fact he is calling a war crime carried out during a period of civil war a "terrorist" act is.
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The fact he is calling a war crime carried out during a period of civil war a "terrorist" act is.
    What, huh? What should a war crime be called?

    Here's the paragraph in question (by you, at least):

    In September 1982, Lebanese Phalangist militia groups and members of the South Lebanon Army, in the presence of the Israel Defense Forces, massacred Palestinians in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.[13][14][15][16][17] The militias were populated predominately by Maronite Christians,[18] and were responding to the assassination of Bachir Gemayel.[13][16] A British photographer present during the incident said that "People who committed the acts of murder that I saw that day were wearing crucifixions and were calling themselves Christians."[16] According to the BBC, the massacre was "a three-day orgy of rape and slaughter that left hundreds, possibly thousands, of innocent civilians dead in what is considered the bloodiest single incident of the Arab-Israeli conflict",[14] and Noam Chomsky has described it as terrorism.[19] On December 16, 1982, it was declared an act of genocide by the United Nations General Assembly.[20]
    Are you suggesting that Lebanese Maronites DIDN'T slaughter Palestinian refugees? OR, are you just peevish every time you see a mention of Chomsky (a guy I personally think is a moron).

    The UN called it genocide. Do you disagree with that assessment? Need to grind your axe against the UN, as well?
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What should a war crime be called?
    It should be called a war crime.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Are you suggesting that Lebanese Maronites DIDN'T slaughter Palestinian refugees?
    Would I refer to it as a war crime if I didn't think it happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    OR, are you just peevish every time you see a mention of Chomsky (a guy I personally think is a moron).
    I expected you to know his point of view and his usual M.O. when it comes to the way he labels things. He would call ANYTHING terrosm as long as he could use it as a tu toque argument to justify his support for certain groups or his hatred of others.

    As far as appeals to authority are concerned, though, I would say that Chomsky isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The UN called it genocide. Do you disagree with that assessment? Need to grind your axe against the UN, as well?
    Yes, I disagree that it was genocide. It wasn't sustained over a long period, and did not affect a sizeable enough portion of the population. Was the Damour massacre also called a "genocide"? If not then an agenda is most obviously at work.
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I guess we aren't counting Uganda on this one, right, where homosexuality is now punishable with death.
    Uganda is not a Christian theocracy. Regardless, far more Islamic governed nations punish homosexuality with death.
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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Your disinterest in facts is duly noted.
    As is your disinterest in the reliability of your sources.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    As is your disinterest in the reliability of your sources.
    Chomsky's opinion stuck in there in no way discredits the factual information that is linked in the article. I'm sorry that you seem to lack an understanding of using sources.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Uganda is not a Christian theocracy. Regardless, far more Islamic governed nations punish homosexuality with death.
    Strawman. No one claimed it was a Christian Theocracy. Are you going to attempt to pretend that American Christians did not influence that law? I hope not, that would be pointedly dishonest.

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Islam is the new Christianity. But the evangelicals and anti-Islams are pushing back.

    Every new religion has to start with a premise of "we're number 1"

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    Re: Which Religion is more "pushy?" Christianity or Islam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Strawman. No one claimed it was a Christian Theocracy. Are you going to attempt to pretend that American Christians did not influence that law? I hope not, that would be pointedly dishonest.
    I was talking about abusive Christian theocracies, you brought up Uganda. Uganda is a nation of Christians and a 12% Muslim population. They are not a theocracy. I don't know of any American Christians who support putting homosexuals to death or supported/paid in some fashion to help that law pass. Again, there are far more oppressive Islamic theocracies, there are virtually no Christian theocracies. It is common in Islamic theocracies to kill those who convert from Islam under the law. Many put homosexuals to death or jail them. Islam by far is a more pushy religion.
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