View Poll Results: Amendments to the US Constitution

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  • Repeal the income tax and replace with the Fair Tax

    15 27.27%
  • Repeal Amendment 14

    9 16.36%
  • Abolish Govt-run welfare, health care, education, etc.

    10 18.18%
  • Mandate a balanced budget every year

    20 36.36%
  • Limit total taxes and spending to under 15%

    12 21.82%
  • Stop all wars and meddling abroad

    14 25.45%
  • Abolish all meddlesome regulations and mandates

    10 18.18%
  • Privatize social security

    12 21.82%
  • Make all states independent nations

    1 1.82%
  • Other (specify)

    25 45.45%
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Thread: New Constitutional Amendment

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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    The founders set up a flawed system. That's why we need to change it from time to time. Remember setting it up so that women couldn't vote? Good job founders. Or the vice president being the person who got the second most amount of votes? That part was a keeper. I don't get why people have this idea "the founders set it up, so that's always the best way to do it" mentality.
    1. There was nothing in the Constitution regarding women not being able to vote. That was a result of State laws, not the Constitution.
    2. In theory, the VP provision was plausible. George Washington, among others, warned of the dangers of forming political parties -- a process that was already underway at the time he gave his Farewell Address. Without the formation of political parties, it would have worked, but with the formation of parties, the situation of 1800 was inevitable.

    I have to wonder if the anti 17th amendment people ever looked at what happened back then. Most of the time, the senate seat would just become a bargaining chip for political maneuvering in the state house. Deadlock would lead senate seats unfilled for months at a time. They'd almost always be some of the biggest political insiders you've ever seen. And you think having senators be chosen by politicians would be good for this country? weird.
    I am still undecided on this one. The point that the States need representatives to protect their rights is a powerful one and one consistant with the actual foundation of the country. However, in most states, there wouldn't be a big political issue of appointing Senators as in most states, one political party has a clear advantage over the other in the lower house of the legislature.
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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarcho-fascist View Post
    Mandate that the size of the house be increased until each member represents a population approximately equal to that of the least populous state.
    You do understand that the Congress passed a law in the 1920s to prevent the size of the House from getting too large because they failed to reapportion in 1920?
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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    AMENDMENT 33:
    (1) In the event that more than one-fifth of the seats of either house of Congress are vacant, the executives of each state shall have sole authority to appoint replacements irrespective of the state constitutional process. (2) This authority shall remain in effect until fewer than one-tenth of the seats of either house of Congress are vacant.
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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The Tom Clancy Executive Orders Amendment?
    I dunno, I've never read it. The idea is that we'd be able to quickly refill the seats of Congress in the event of a tragedy in which many of them died.
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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, I disagree with the LP platform almost point for point. If a libertarian wants to call me totalitarian for that, feel free.
    You literally disagree with all of them? You literally believe that we need to minimize individual freedom and maximize political authority?

    I'm not calling you a totalitarian, but I would like you to acknowledge that you stand for totalitaran ideals. If not, please expand further. This debate can't be over yet!

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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I dunno, I've never read it. The idea is that we'd be able to quickly refill the seats of Congress in the event of a tragedy in which many of them died.
    Which is what happened in Executive Orders. I was reminded of that book as well when I read your proposed ammendment.
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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, I disagree with the LP platform almost point for point. If a libertarian wants to call me totalitarian for that, feel free.
    Your a totalitarian.

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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    • Establish a specific approach to constitutional interpretation.
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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    It's more of that many libertarians are very single-minded about it, evangelical isn't a bad word for it. You weren't on the board during 2008 but I'm sure you can imagine how insane some of the ron paul fanboys got.
    Was Martin Luther King, Jr. single-minded about segregation? Libertarians, IMHO, are far more consistent in their ideology. Consistency is often mistaken for zealotry or evangelism.

    And you'd have to be more specific about such ron paul "fanboys." I'm one libertarian who isn't a fan of the Tea Party movement, whatsoever. But I did like Paul.

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    Re: New Constitutional Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    If you could write any amendments to the US Constitution, what would they be?
    Abolish property and estate taxes. These are anti individual and anti family and are meant to undermine the family in favor of the state.

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