ronpaulvoter
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A simple question: Repeal Obama-Care lock, stock and barrel with NO replacements or amendments.
A simple question: Repeal Obama-Care lock, stock and barrel with NO replacements or amendments.
So whats your alternative health care plan while we're on the subject?
Repeal the numerous and stupid health care regulations, get government out of the way, and let the free market work.
Undoing something bad is not going backwards.There are alot of ways the Health Care bill could be(and should be) improved, but going backwards is not the best solution.
Undoing something bad is not going backwards.
A simple question: Repeal Obama-Care lock, stock and barrel with NO replacements or amendments.
I don't think most of the bill is bad. There are certain things which could be undone without much complaint to me, and certain things which should be done that were not, but the need for health care reform is great, and not doing it will create more problems than doing it poorly.
This not true if doing it poorly means actually making things worse for more people than you made it better for.I don't think most of the bill is bad. There are certain things which could be undone without much complaint to me, and certain things which should be done that were not, but the need for health care reform is great, and not doing it will create more problems than doing it poorly.
This is basically how I feel about it. It's not the perfect bill, but it's a step in the right direction.
This not true if doing it poorly means actually making things worse for more people than you made it better for.
What mess are we in. I recall during the debate that, like, 80% of Americans were happy with their health careRedo the bill that passed? Absolutely.
Let the free market take care of health care? How do you think we got into the mess we're in???
This is not what would happen at all. Without all the regulation, companies would be more free to offer different packages that people could get according to what they need. Also, insurance companies would compete against each other. That would drive down premiums.The free market would allow corporations to do what they wanted to. Every health care corporation would join together (if we're assuming we have no anti-trust laws, as in a free market), and premiums along with everything else would skyrocket. If you honestly suggest allowing the free market to take over health care completely, you have no idea what you're talking about.
It is the case if it's actually driven premiums up for everybody and/or makes doctors less accessible.I do not think that is the case with the health care bill.
What mess are we in. I recall during the debate that, like, 80% of Americans were happy with their health care
This is not what would happen at all. Without all the regulation, companies would be more free to offer different packages that people could get according to what they need. Also, insurance companies would compete against each other. That would drive down premiums.
Dems should have "moved on" when it was made clear the people didn't want this.We've had a year and a half of health care reform debate. This political theater will achieve nothing. I think there are other things pressing for Congressional action; immigration reform and tax reform particularly. Republicans need to move on.
I don't think Americans are stupid but I agree we do stupid things on occasion (like electing Obama). Once the people are engaged and interested, we're actually quite smart IMO. Interesting you speak of "economic inefficiencies" as if there aren't inefficiencies in the government.I've also heard that 20% of Americans or something like that believe Obama is a Muslim. My point in that is that the American people are pretty freaking stupid, and more then that, the inherent economic inefficiencies in the healthcare industry cost us exorbitant funds.
If what you say is true, why wouldn't it be the case for all corporations in existence now?Why would they compete when they can form a massive corporation? That's just better business for them, and they would offer tons of different packages with all the same caveats: once you actually get sick and start becoming a liability, they're going to cut you loose. Maybe if corporations inherently behaved ethically we could expect what you predict, but that's obviously not the case. All they would go for is profit, and without government regulation, they'd get it.
I don't think Americans are stupid but I agree we do stupid things on occasion (like electing Obama). Once the people are engaged and interested, we're actually quite smart IMO. Interesting you speak of "economic inefficiencies" as if there aren't inefficiencies in the government.
If what you say is true, why wouldn't it be the case for all corporations in existence now?
With 50million Americans without insurance im not sure your math would add up. Now the polls are about even for keeping it as is. Polls are a poor way to dictate policy.What mess are we in. I recall during the debate that, like, 80% of Americans were happy with their health care.