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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Simple.

    Soros is liberal Democrat.

    The Cato Institute is libertarian. Libertarian, as a third party, sucks more votes away from Republicans than Democrats.

    Soros aids libertarian think-tank -> fewer votes for R.

    At least, that's probably what he thought when he did it.... assuming the decision wasn't made by some flunky rather than Soros personally.
    I disagree. I think Soros was genuine in his appeal to support a institution dedicated to civil liberties. As a liberal democrat, Soros probably has a bunch of different views regarding which civil liberties are worth protecting, but perhaps he wasn't directly involved in this decision.

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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think you make a good point. Sometimes I wonder who hates Republicans more, Democrats or Libertarians. Libertarians (the pothead and anarcho types) hate Repbulicans because they feel their existence keeps Libertarians from the prominence they are due.
    I've never seen Libertarian "hatred" towards republicans from the Libertarian media that I'm exposed to. But judging by your statement and the general disagreements between conservatives and libertarians, it would appear that conservatives hate libertarians. To conservatives, we're nothing but drug-addicted, sodomizing, gay, atheists promoting anarchy. But personally, this libertarian views the positive before the negative when engaging any liberal or conservative in a debate. I do not automatically start at the bottom with insults and presumptions, but at the top with academic dialogue and courtesy.

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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Finally, after 500 years, they get one single freaking libertarian (running as a Republican) into office. Either their platform sucks or their candidates do. Constantly pissing and moaning, besmirching Republicans and acting like Republicans are worse than Democrat have gotten them the reward they deserve. Don't confuse most libertarians with constitutionalists. IMO libertarians like Rev are more like constitutionalists (e.g., Tea Partiers), but some of the others are crazy anarcho malcontents who spend their days bashing the Republican Party and smoking pot.
    Hey AMERICAN, let me emphasize something...

    CONSERVATIVE SCHOLARS AND/OR ECONOMISTS DO NOT EXIST. Every conservative's favorite economist is a libertarian. They derive their entire opinions regarding economics from the libertarian movement. Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, the Chicago School of Economics, the Hoover Institution, etc.

    Conservatives, it appears, do not have an original idea regarding economic decisions. They're charlatan libertarians in economic thought and nationalistic Machiavellians in political thought.

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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Does Glen Beck profess to be a nut case?
    Maybe he should, the the extremists would then leave him, the liberals might just listen and give him a chance.
    I have visited their(Cato) site and see nothing communistic about them..
    And, if done right, I favor a national ID system.
    Hopefully, we do have the quality of government people to administer it.

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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    I've never seen Libertarian "hatred" towards republicans from the Libertarian media that I'm exposed to. But judging by your statement and the general disagreements between conservatives and libertarians, it would appear that conservatives hate libertarians. To conservatives, we're nothing but drug-addicted, sodomizing, gay, atheists promoting anarchy. But personally, this libertarian views the positive before the negative when engaging any liberal or conservative in a debate. I do not automatically start at the bottom with insults and presumptions, but at the top with academic dialogue and courtesy.
    You are wrong, I think most libertarians are whining malcontents who have no sellable platform. They don't get voted in for a reason. Their social platform doesn't agree with most Americans. They have liberals to take care of pot and gay rights, what do they need libertarians for? Conservative Republicans did let down their constituents under Bush, because Bush thought it would politically smart to spend money thinking it would kill the issues for liberals. That didn't and doesn't work. Giving away money is a fool's errand.
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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You are wrong, I think most libertarians are whining malcontents who have no sellable platform. They don't get voted in for a reason. Their social platform doesn't agree with most Americans. They have liberals to take care of pot and gay rights, what do they need libertarians for? Conservative Republicans did let down their constituents under Bush, because Bush thought it would politically smart to spend money thinking it would kill the issues for liberals. That didn't and doesn't work. Giving away money is a fool's errand.
    Your entire justification for shunning libertarianism is its unpopularity with voters. As if the popular whims of the majority is all that is needed to stir reform in the right direction. Let me remind you that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. You neglected to respond to my point about libertarian scholars. It is my understanding that libertarians, in general, are far more interested in economic studies as opposed to political battles. This is why you find a relatively large number of libertarian institutes and a large number of libertarian economists. As I stated earlier, the conservative's favorite economist is almost always a libertarian. Whether that libertarian is Milton Friedman or Friedrich Hayek is irrelevent. Conservatives reflect back on their classical liberal roots to understand economics.

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    mad Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    This is a ridiculous question. A libertarian is the polar opposite of a communist or socialist.

    Anybody who said "yes" to this question should research the definitions of these words.

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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Why do you focus on chiding Beck so much when you could at least be discussing the damned think-tank and its scholars?
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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    This is a ridiculous question. A libertarian is the polar opposite of a communist or socialist.
    Anybody who said "yes" to this question should research the definitions of these words.
    Not really.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is the libertarian think tank Cato Institute a socialist/communist organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    This is a ridiculous question. A libertarian is the polar opposite of a communist or socialist.

    Anybody who said "yes" to this question should research the definitions of these words.
    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not really.
    RPvoter is wrong strictly on terminology. Libertarianism is the polar opposite of totalitarianism, not necessarily "socialism" or "communism" though every communist country in existence has been a totalitarian state.

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