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Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

Will God Bless the Military Because of New Policy?

  • God will Continue to bless our Country but not our Military

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • God will continue to bless BOTH country and military

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • God blesses individuals NOT groups

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • God blesses individuals AND groups seperatly

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • God doesnt work like this at all!

    Votes: 10 27.0%
  • I dont believe in God of the Chirstian Bible

    Votes: 9 24.3%
  • Im an Athiest

    Votes: 13 35.1%
  • Other / I dont know

    Votes: 6 16.2%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a idiot

    Votes: 12 32.4%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a wise person

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Total voters
    37

The Giant Noodle

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One of my friends firmly feels that because gays are now openly allowed in the US military and they can openly state they are gay, that God (of the Christian Bible) will choose NOT to bless our military in combat and might not even bless our Country.

What is YOUR opinion?
 
Only God knows. From a spiritual standpoint, God showed compassion and love to all sinners and gave everyone a chance to repent and be saved. In terms of sin, it is equally wrong for a soldier to have premarital sex and act crass and foolish. As a Christian, I believe that God doesn't hate homosexuals or any other sinner and wishes that they would repent and turn from their ways. Biblically speaking, allowing homosexuals to serve openly is just as "wrong" as accepting heterosexuals that brag and are open about their sexual immorality with the opposite sex. I believe God will judge all nations and all people during the end of days.
 
One of my friends firmly feels that because gays are now openly allowed in the US military and they can openly state they are gay, that God (of the Christian Bible) will choose NOT to bless our military in combat and might not even bless our Country.

What is YOUR opinion?

What if god is already against this war? LMAO
this is why religion gets a lot people is trouble with discussions like these. Its because the obvious "hypocrisy" usually OOZES out with every word. Faith is a good thing that the majority of people use in a wrong way.
 
HA! We lost any chance of being blessed when we went to war over oil!
 
I doubt God's judgment manifests itself that way.

Israel's military allows homosexuals to serve openly and they consistently perform well in their military engagements.

Besides, its not like an omniscient entity is going to be tricked by a policy like "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Clearly, we've been allowing homosexuals to serve in our military.
 
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I doubt that God has ever blessed an active soldier.
 
If you believe gays were born gay (I do) and you believe in God (I do) then God made them gay and they are his children.

Show me Biblically where God says that He makes people gay and forces them into homosexuality.
 
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Show me Biblically where God says that He makes people gay and forces them into homosexuality.

That wasn't his point.
Everyone's supposedly a beloved child of God - and he judges and passes a verdict.

(if you believe in God at all - I don't)
 
Show me Biblically where God says that He makes people gay and forces them into homosexuality.

What does your request have to do with the statement you qouted?
 
If you believe gays were born gay (I do) and you believe in God (I do) then God made them gay and they are his children.

I also agree with you. Alas I feel that folks here are surprised you feel that way because of your strong conservative beliefs. Conservatives generally believe in the Bible and in the bible it says at LEAST twice that God HATES homosexual activity. A LOT!
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22; see also Leviticus 20:13).


“For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another…” (Romans 1:26-27).

The Greek word arsenokoitai used in 1 Timothy 1:10 literally means “men who sleep with men.” It is the same Greek word used for “homosexual offender” in 1 Corinthians 6:9, variously translated as “abusers of themselves with mankind” (KJV), homosexuals (NASB) or homosexual offender (NIV).

Some people claim that the sin involved in Sodom was rejecting hospitality customs or selfishness rather than homosexual behavior. Certainly, the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah was great and their reported sin was grievous to God (Genesis 18:20). God sent angels to Sodom and…

“Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot and said to him, Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have sex with them” (Genesis 19:4-5).

“While it is true that the Hebrew word yadha does not necessarily mean 'to have sex with,' nonetheless in the context of Sodom and Gommorah, it clearly had this meaning. …It means 'to know sexually' in this very chapter when Lot refers to his two daughters not having “known” a man (19:8).” 9 You would not offer virgins to appease a mob if their sin was lack of hospitality, but only if their desire was sexual.

Although Ezekiel 16:49 condemns Sodom for its selfishness with regard to poverty etc., this does not contradict its condemnation for homosexual practices. “The very next verse of Ezekiel (v. 50) calls their sin an ‘abomination.’ This is the same Hebrew word used to describe homosexual sins in Leviticus 18:22.”10

It is also used in Scripture to describe such things like the practice of offering children to Moloch, but never such things as mere selfishness or lack of hospitality. Even in legal parlance, the word used to refer to one aspect of homosexual practice is 'sodomy'.

Another argument is that Jonathon and David were homosexuals as 'Jonathan loved David (1 Sam. 18:3), that Jonathan stripped in David's presence (18:4), [and] that they kissed each other (20:41)'.11

However, “David's love for Jonathan was not sexual (erotic) but a friendship (philic) love. And Jonathan did not strip himself of all his clothes, but only of his armor and royal robe (1 Sam. 18:4).”12 Also, a kiss was a normal greeting in that day, such as when Judas kissed Jesus. In several cultures today, men normally greet each other with a kiss, too. Further, David's love for his wives, especially Bathsheba (2 Samuel 11), clearly reveals his heterosexual orientation.

Isaiah 56:3 states that eunuchs will not be excluded from God's presence (“my temple”), but practicing homosexuals are not eunuchs. Eunuchs have no sexual relations at all.

Other scriptural arguments for homosexuality can similarly be easily refuted. It is clear that heterosexual marriage is the only form of marriage sanctioned in the Bible and that homosexual practice is always condemned.

Punishment
The Bible not only describes homosexual behavior as detestable, but it also calls for the punishment of those involved (Leviticus 20:13). Their unrepentant attitude caused God to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25).

Just as homosexual conduct has been punished in the past, so it will also be punished by God in the future.

“…Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortion ers will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

What's wrong with being gay? Homosexual behavior versus the Bible - ChristianAnswers.Net
 
That wasn't his point.
Everyone's supposedly a beloved child of God - and he judges and passes a verdict.

(if you believe in God at all - I don't)

Everyone is God's creation, but not everyone is a child of God. God loves everyone, but not everyone has been adopted as children into his family. Only those who have repented of sin and believe in Jesus are Biblically Children of God.
 
Everyone is God's creation, but not everyone is a child of God. God loves everyone, but not everyone has been adopted as children into his family. Only those who have repented of sin and believe in Jesus are Biblically Children of God.

so jews and muslims aren't children of god?
 
One of my friends firmly feels that because gays are now openly allowed in the US military and they can openly state they are gay, that God (of the Christian Bible) will choose NOT to bless our military in combat and might not even bless our Country.

What is YOUR opinion?

Your friend is an idiot. God will bless those who he wishes to bless. Not who your friend thinks should be blessed. You should get into a conversation with your friend and talk about the 7 deadly sins. Pride specifically. Then show him how he is being prideful for speaking for God. Moses did that, Moses got left behind for it.
 
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