View Poll Results: Will God Bless the Military Because of New Policy?

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  • God will Continue to bless our Country but not our Military

    1 1.72%
  • God will continue to bless BOTH country and military

    3 5.17%
  • God blesses individuals NOT groups

    7 12.07%
  • God blesses individuals AND groups seperatly

    1 1.72%
  • God doesnt work like this at all!

    10 17.24%
  • I dont believe in God of the Chirstian Bible

    9 15.52%
  • Im an Athiest

    15 25.86%
  • Other / I dont know

    6 10.34%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a idiot

    13 22.41%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a wise person

    20 34.48%
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Murder is premeditated.
    Why is it, then, that we prosecute drunk drivers who kill someone for murder? Hell some dude in a road rage accident who killed someone in CO got Murder 1. He certainly didn't plan on going out that day and killing anyone (Murder 1 being the premeditated form of murder). He just lost his temper and used his car as a weapon and ended up causing a fatal accident. IMO, that is murder as there was clear intent to harm; but not murder 1 since that's supposed to be premeditated.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    No ma'am. Legally it is homicide. Murder is premeditated. A legal killing (self-defense, war) is not murder under law.

    You can argue just or unjust. You can argue whether a given war is itself just, or unjust... but soldiers don't get to make that distinction, they serve the nation and the nation's leaders decide whether to go to war or not. If the war is unjust, it is on those leaders who authorized the war and said "let this be done", not on the soldier. He is simply doing his duty.

    Killing in self-defense is not legally murder. You may be charged with murder, but if the defense of self-defense is upheld you will not be guilty of murder, legally. It is termed a "justified homicide".

    Murder is an emotion-charged term that defines an unjust, premeditated killing. If I kill a man to stop him from killing/raping/etc an innocent person, how is my action unjust? I have prevented an injustice. How could it be premeditated? I did not seek out the situation, it happened by someone else's intentions.

    You are misusing that word very egregiously.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    One of my friends firmly feels that because gays are now openly allowed in the US military and they can openly state they are gay, that God (of the Christian Bible) will choose NOT to bless our military in combat and might not even bless our Country.

    What is YOUR opinion?
    That some still believe this trash, this hateful sewage; we as a nation still have a long way to go...
    Man is a very complex creation, few if any are "perfect". If "God" happens to judge us, he will notice how poorly we have treated those less fortuniate that us.....
    Lets hope , with this behind us, we can go on to more important things - health care for one.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So if I kill someone in defense of myself or someone else, this would be considered murder by you? All that says is that critical thinking is not your forte.

    Because you claim it was self defense does not necessarily make it so. The Terrorists claim their killing is self defense as well. I consider it murder just as I do for the tens of thousands of Iraqis we killed to gain interest in their oil.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Show me Biblically where God says that He makes people gay and forces them into homosexuality.
    I doubt that even a shred of evidence exists to this end.....But, its obvious, for those with a dregree of intelligence that man is NOT perfect, that there are goofs along the way..Its how we treat these "goofs" that determines our qualities as man.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why is it, then, that we prosecute drunk drivers who kill someone for murder?
    They are not charged with murder. It is vehicular manslaughter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hell some dude in a road rage accident who killed someone in CO got Murder 1. He certainly didn't plan on going out that day and killing anyone (Murder 1 being the premeditated form of murder). He just lost his temper and used his car as a weapon and ended up causing a fatal accident. IMO, that is murder as there was clear intent to harm; but not murder 1 since that's supposed to be premeditated.
    He pulled out in front of another car on purpose and slammed on the brakes killing both individuals in the car. That was the first time. This time he slammed into the back of the other car doing 120+ miles an hour. Yes murder 1 fits as that is exactly what he was doing.

    Obviously you have no clue what murder is under the law.

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    9NEWS.com | Denver | Colorado's Online News Leader | Man charged with murder in crash that killed teens
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because you claim it was self defense does not necessarily make it so.
    I am not claiming anything. I simply stated a fact.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Terrorists claim their killing is self defense as well.
    And only a moron would accept that. This of course does not change the definition of murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I consider it murder just as I do for the tens of thousands of Iraqis we killed to gain interest in their oil.
    And there is the rub. It is only your opinion.

    According to US law it is "Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought."

    So you have no argument as none of the statements you made have any evidence to say they were unlawful in any way, period.

    Thanks for playing.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    How the HELL did the poll go from one side allllllllll the way to the OTHER? Now the vast majority is saying the person who said this was WISE!!! Its wasnt even close to that before. Interesting. *raising eyebrow*
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badfish420 View Post
    lolwut? is this really a thread?
    I'm wondering if other mythological entities will feel entitled to bless (or curse) our military for allowing those with differing sexual orientations to finally serve. What would Zeus say? Or Cthulu? Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And there is the rub. It is only your opinion.

    According to US law it is "Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought."
    Perhaps, but I suspect if there is a God, she doesn't have the same "technically legal" loopholes you allow for killing in wars for oil, just as she wouldn't allow loopholes for killing by the religious extremists.
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