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  • God will Continue to bless our Country but not our Military

    1 1.72%
  • God will continue to bless BOTH country and military

    3 5.17%
  • God blesses individuals NOT groups

    7 12.07%
  • God blesses individuals AND groups seperatly

    1 1.72%
  • God doesnt work like this at all!

    10 17.24%
  • I dont believe in God of the Chirstian Bible

    9 15.52%
  • Im an Athiest

    15 25.86%
  • Other / I dont know

    6 10.34%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a idiot

    13 22.41%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a wise person

    20 34.48%
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    In my humble opinion, the sentience of any 'divine' monotheistic entity (omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient) would be so utterly foreign to our minds that nothing we could ever conceive of could mimic, predict or understand its reasoning. It'd be like explaining to penguins the nuances of atomic particles. Naturally, I find this poll absurd.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Only God knows. From a spiritual standpoint, God showed compassion and love to all sinners and gave everyone a chance to repent and be saved. In terms of sin, it is equally wrong for a soldier to have premarital sex and act crass and foolish. As a Christian, I believe that God doesn't hate homosexuals or any other sinner and wishes that they would repent and turn from their ways. Biblically speaking, allowing homosexuals to serve openly is just as "wrong" as accepting heterosexuals that brag and are open about their sexual immorality with the opposite sex. I believe God will judge all nations and all people during the end of days.
    Jolly good post old chap.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is more like the thinking of the times were different. As far as we know, they didn't have a word for any sexuality. Sociology didn't exist back then. They didn't think such things were really necessary to explain. It is quite possible that they were talking about either sex between a man and boy, or ritual male prostitution, or even someone who sleeps with both men and women. It really isn't as cut and dry as we may think. And it could very well mean man/man sexual relations, but it is really not easy to know this, since those original words are no longer used and really weren't translated directly from someone who lived in the time when those terms were being used to clear up what exactly is being talked about.

    Heck, until the 1970s, homosexuality was considered a mental illness even by mental health professionals. Why? What exactly was wrong with being homosexual that made it necessary to make it a mental illness? Many people, even now, hold this stance because they feel that it somehow helps to justify their own bigotry against consenting adults of the same sex being involved in intimate relationships when there is no actual conflict with them living a normal healthy life nor a conflict of violating consent laws.
    Actually - many historians date most of the Bible to be within the first few centuries BC.
    That would date along side the pyramids and other such things - and Greek history when they were a large empire. The Greeks, as we all know, were very insightful and many of their ideas and beliefs still heavily influence our societies, today - such as Aristotles teachings and so on.

    Of course - other stories of the Bible come from other areas such as Assyria and coincide with more ancient events that came form Hammurabi's time-period. . . Hammurabi, as we all now, instilled values he set forward in his 'Code of Hammurabi' - which is extremely detailed i in some ways quite insightful.

    All in all - though the stories and events are diverse in their time-period - people back then in some places spent an excessive amount of time trying to understand human nature - and to control and contain it.

    This is how I think the Bible itself came around - from an attempt to control and govern mankind. Obviously they figured out something about human-psychology - because people still follow the Bible as Constantine decided it would be written.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Show me Biblically where God says that He makes people gay and forces them into homosexuality.
    God didn't write the bible, people did

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I really wish you hadn't started this thread. All it is going to do is stir up a lot of controversy and anger.

    To answer the OP, I'd just have to say that I don't know. I don't claim to speak for God. He will bless a nation(or its military) as He wills according to His purposes. Individuals are a different matter, according to my beliefs.






    That's quite a radical statement. Would you care to expand on your thoughts on that matter?
    Which part of "Thou shalt not kill" is confusing for you? Soldiers should repent heavily for the lives that they have taken in battle. God doesn't bless active warriors, but should accept those that know that they have sinned.
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    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Actually - many historians date most of the Bible to be within the first few centuries BC.
    That would date along side the pyramids and other such things - and Greek history when they were a large empire. The Greeks, as we all know, were very insightful and many of their ideas and beliefs still heavily influence our societies, today - such as Aristotles teachings and so on.
    The old testament, perhaps. The new testament dates to around 100AD or much later. The earliest copies in existence date from around 300 AD.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    This question is ridiculous on many levels, theologically speaking. First, it is based upon the presumption that America had some sort of favored nation status in God's eyes, akin to Israel, and has now lost it because of teh gheys. There is zero theological basis for this belief. God doesn't have a favorite team. He has relationships with individuals.

    Secondly, it presumes that God withholds love from humans based upon their hetero/homosexuality. That is also patently false...

    "While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

    Some evangelicals are just ridiculously stupid when they come up with this sort of nonsense. It's as if they haven't even read the bible.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The old testament, perhaps. The new testament dates to around 100AD or much later. The earliest copies in existence date from around 300 AD.
    Yes - there's a large span of time and a significant number of books to consider. Yet the New Testament was compiled from a variety of books that were collected, (as was the Old Testament) - and many were actually rejected from the Bible.

    Which is interesting - the rejected books are rarely read and revered - eventhough they, too, are claimed to be 'the word of God' and so on.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    The key word here is "facetious".
    The whole thing is silly beyond belief.
    No vote, of course.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This question is ridiculous on many levels, theologically speaking. First, it is based upon the presumption that America had some sort of favored nation status in God's eyes, akin to Israel. There is zero theological basis for this belief. God doesn't have a favorite team. He has relationships with individuals.

    Secondly, it presumes that God withholds love from humans based upon their hetero/homosexuality. That is also patently false...

    "While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

    Some evangelicals are just ridiculously stupid when they come up with this sort of nonsense. It's as if they haven't even read the bible.
    They, like so many others, only read and live by the portions that they agree with and find tasteful.

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