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  • God will Continue to bless our Country but not our Military

    1 1.72%
  • God will continue to bless BOTH country and military

    3 5.17%
  • God blesses individuals NOT groups

    7 12.07%
  • God blesses individuals AND groups seperatly

    1 1.72%
  • God doesnt work like this at all!

    10 17.24%
  • I dont believe in God of the Chirstian Bible

    9 15.52%
  • Im an Athiest

    15 25.86%
  • Other / I dont know

    6 10.34%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a idiot

    13 22.41%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a wise person

    20 34.48%
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    OHHHHHHHH by the way the person who said this was my Pastor speaking during a Bible study. I used to be a Born-Again until I realized how foolish it all was. In any case I still go to services because most of my friends are there.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Show me Biblically where God says that He makes people gay and forces them into homosexuality.
    God made everything correct? According to Genesis...yes. Of course it doesn't specifically say anything about gays or homosexuals. But then it also doesn't say that God created the Oak tree specifically either.

    First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." 29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    I really wish you hadn't started this thread. All it is going to do is stir up a lot of controversy and anger.

    To answer the OP, I'd just have to say that I don't know. I don't claim to speak for God. He will bless a nation(or its military) as He wills according to His purposes. Individuals are a different matter, according to my beliefs.




    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I doubt that God has ever blessed an active soldier.
    That's quite a radical statement. Would you care to expand on your thoughts on that matter?

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Hah! I love this - I just might get one to draw scripture from in debates.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Well it would be cool if ya DID! I would like to seehow they can wiggle their way around direct biblical statements that arent taken out of context.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Well it would be cool if ya DID! I would like to seehow they can wiggle their way around direct biblical statements that arent taken out of context.
    They re-translated from the original texts. . .as do many conflicting versions of the Bible.

    that's what happens when a religion uses a book that's extremely old - there's a lot of room for interpretation . . . interpreting texts of any type - for any purpose - is tricky business. It's not like a code where all you have to do is unscramble it.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    They re-translated from the original texts. . .as do many conflicting versions of the Bible.

    that's what happens when a religion uses a book that's extremely old - there's a lot of room for interpretation . . . interpreting texts of any type - for any purpose - is tricky business. It's not like a code where all you have to do is unscramble it.

    I personally dont think it would change muliple references directed at gay acts. Sounds like the author is trying to fit a sqare peg in a round hole.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I personally dont think it would change muliple references directed at gay acts. Sounds like the author is trying to fit a sqare peg in a round hole.
    Yet that's at the core of many philosophical and theological debates: linguistics.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I personally dont think it would change muliple references directed at gay acts. Sounds like the author is trying to fit a sqare peg in a round hole.
    It is more like the thinking of the times were different. As far as we know, they didn't have a word for any sexuality. Sociology didn't exist back then. They didn't think such things were really necessary to explain. It is quite possible that they were talking about either sex between a man and boy, or ritual male prostitution, or even someone who sleeps with both men and women. It really isn't as cut and dry as we may think. And it could very well mean man/man sexual relations, but it is really not easy to know this, since those original words are no longer used and really weren't translated directly from someone who lived in the time when those terms were being used to clear up what exactly is being talked about.

    Heck, until the 1970s, homosexuality was considered a mental illness even by mental health professionals. Why? What exactly was wrong with being homosexual that made it necessary to make it a mental illness? Many people, even now, hold this stance because they feel that it somehow helps to justify their own bigotry against consenting adults of the same sex being involved in intimate relationships when there is no actual conflict with them living a normal healthy life nor a conflict of violating consent laws.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is more like the thinking of the times were different. As far as we know, they didn't have a word for any sexuality. Sociology didn't exist back then. They didn't think such things were really necessary to explain. It is quite possible that they were talking about either sex between a man and boy, or ritual male prostitution, or even someone who sleeps with both men and women. It really isn't as cut and dry as we may think. And it could very well mean man/man sexual relations, but it is really not easy to know this, since those original words are no longer used and really weren't translated directly from someone who lived in the time when those terms were being used to clear up what exactly is being talked about.
    One of the biggest reasons why I think the bible..in any of its current forms is crap.
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