View Poll Results: Will God Bless the Military Because of New Policy?

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  • God will Continue to bless our Country but not our Military

    1 1.72%
  • God will continue to bless BOTH country and military

    3 5.17%
  • God blesses individuals NOT groups

    7 12.07%
  • God blesses individuals AND groups seperatly

    1 1.72%
  • God doesnt work like this at all!

    10 17.24%
  • I dont believe in God of the Chirstian Bible

    9 15.52%
  • Im an Athiest

    15 25.86%
  • Other / I dont know

    6 10.34%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a idiot

    13 22.41%
  • The person that said this to you Noodle is a wise person

    20 34.48%
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Murder is always killing. Killing is not always murder.

    At this point you have no argument so no point in continuing.

    Have a good one.
    Excuse me, I had forgotten that you were arbitrator for God and determine what she considers killing and what she considers murder. You can provide some ID of course, right? Or are we just supposded to have faith that you are the one?
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Excuse me, I had forgotten that you were arbitrator for God and determine what she considers killing and what she considers murder. You can provide some ID of course, right? Or are we just supposded to have faith that you are the one?
    Excuse me? The debate was about what the Bible says and the judeo-Christian God, not some arbitrary entity you just made up.

    Here is the original post I responded to...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059198299

    Now if you want to respond to what we were actually talking about with some proof, we can continue. Otherwise as I said, not much point in going on as I have shown ample evidence to back my claim while you have shown opinion based on nothing.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Excuse me? The debate was about what the Bible says and the judeo-Christian God, not some arbitrary entity you just made up.
    That is who I was speaking about.

    Here is the original post I responded to...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1059198299
    I know which post you were responding too, I read it before responding to you.

    Now if you want to respond to what we were actually talking about with some proof, we can continue. Otherwise as I said, not much point in going on as I have shown ample evidence to back my claim while you have shown opinion based on nothing.
    That is exactly what I based my comment on. I just don't happen to accept your premise that God determines what's murder and what is self-defense killing based on US law. Where is your evidence of that?
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    That kind of talk, to me, sounds like something that guy in Arkansas would say, you know the Westrbo Baptists Church preacher.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist the gov. View Post
    That kind of talk, to me, sounds like something that guy in Arkansas would say, you know the Westrbo Baptists Church preacher.
    Westboro Baptist is in Kansas.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    I find it just a little interesting that the commandment of "Thou shalt not kill." requires context and is somehow mistranslated, yet to many there is only ONE clear cut interpretation of the Bible regarding homosexuals.

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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I find it just a little interesting that the commandment of "Thou shalt not kill." requires context and is somehow mistranslated, yet to many there is only ONE clear cut interpretation of the Bible regarding homosexuals.
    Because it is pretty clear when in the OT it says "a man shall not lie with a man" etc.

    There is not a single Greek word or phrase in the entire New Testament that could be translated into English as “homosexual” or “homosexuality.” In fact “homosexuality” like that of “heterosexuality,” “bisexuality,” and even “sexual orientation” is a modern concept that would not have been intelligible to New Testament writers. It is however mentioned 3 times in Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:8–11 that are references to homosexuality and sexual immorality in general.

    I will use Romans as an example...

    Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

    No use of the word or an equivalent word for homosexual. It is direct (just like the OT) with no misunderstanding "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another."

    No mistaking what was said or it's meaning in context. So you have the NT offering references to a law in the OT. This is pretty good evidence.

    As a side note it may also be in reference to pagan rituals, or what was happening during those rituals. Either way, no mistaking the intent.

    So the "lol" is on your statement.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-07-11 at 05:46 PM.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Will God Bless the Military Beacuse of New Policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because it is pretty clear when in the OT it says "a man shall not lie with a man" etc.

    There is not a single Greek word or phrase in the entire New Testament that could be translated into English as “homosexual” or “homosexuality.” In fact “homosexuality” like that of “heterosexuality,” “bisexuality,” and even “sexual orientation” is a modern concept that would not have been intelligible to New Testament writers. It is however mentioned 3 times in Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:8–11 that are references to homosexuality and sexual immorality in general.

    I will use Romans as an example...

    Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

    No use of the word or an equivalent word for homosexual. It is direct (just like the OT) with no misunderstanding "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another."

    No mistaking what was said or it's meaning in context. So you have the NT offering references to a law in the OT. This is pretty good evidence.

    As a side note it may also be in reference to pagan rituals, or what was happening during those rituals. Either way, no mistaking the intent.

    So the "lol" is on your statement.
    You can throw as many bible verses as you want to try to justify it, but my statement still stands. People tend to cherry pick issues that they care about and try to justify them, and then throw the others by the wayside and believe them without the same kind of scrutiny.

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