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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    That is called collective punishment and is illegal in international law. It's sort of like saying "The majority of Germans supported Hitler so the German Jews deserved it."
    and what do you consider terrorism, if not "collective punishment"?
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    and what do you consider terrorism, if not "collective punishment"?
    and why do you feel the need to constantly divert the topic at hand instead of addressing it
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    You guys might want to take the discussion of Israel to the ME forum so that you don't get in trouble by bringing it outside of the ME forum.
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    I'm not particularly interested in discussing this with Gardener, as he is basically a robot, but figured the other poster could at least answer the question without having it turn into a huge ordeal. Guess not. :-X
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

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    Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?Lets stick to the topic people and stop the flaming. Tucker is absolutely correct, take the middle east politics to the middle east forum

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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post

    Nowhere has such a claim even remotely been made. Norman Finklestein only claims that members of the Jewish establishment have abused the memory of the Holocaust for political and financial gain.
    Au Contrare.
    I made a whole string of it.
    Enjoy:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...nkelstein.html

    Citing very credible sources (Simon Wiesenthal Center, NY Times, ADL, etc) that Finkelfuhrer is indeed an antisemite. (and was Fired from Depaul and denied a job at Yale)
    In re his Jew Baiting book 'Holocuast Industry'.....
    "The New York Times' review of the book described its premise as a "novel variation" of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.." "..Accordingly, the Times' reviewer described Finkelstein as "Juvenile," "arrogant," and "Stupid" (Aug. 6, 2000).
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Au Contrare.
    I made a whole string of it.
    Enjoy:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...nkelstein.html

    Citing very credible sources (Simon Wiesenthal Center, NY Times, ADL, etc) that Finkelfuhrer is indeed an antisemite. (and was Fired from Depaul and denied a job at Yale)
    In re his Jew Baiting book 'Holocuast Industry'.....
    "The New York Times' review of the book described its premise as a "novel variation" of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.." "..Accordingly, the Times' reviewer described Finkelstein as "Juvenile," "arrogant," and "Stupid" (Aug. 6, 2000).
    Link above.
    Nothing you mentioned even remotely proves that Norm Finkelstein has ever said what Gardener claims. What you have are a lot of opinions about Norm Finkelstein.
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light

    Nothing you mentioned even remotely proves that Norm Finkelstein has ever said what Gardener claims. What you have are a lot of opinions about Norm Finkelstein.
    It not only "remotely proves it" it Specifically proves it using the same metaphor to the 'Protocols' for Finkelfuhrer's 'Holocaust industry' as Gardener does. (!)
    Your posts, while always in denial and oft dropping the most poignant parts of other's posts.. are now just plain GONE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener Claim

    Yes, books created in order to promote hostility towards Jewish people by accusing them of manipulating people though milking the Holocaust obviously have nothing to do with the sort of classic antisemitism in bygone days that simply accused Jewish people of manipulating people by basis of their protocols.
    Quote Originally Posted by me/NYTimes Book Review

    "The New York Times' review of the book [Finkelstein's Holocaust Industry] described its premise as a "novel variation" of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.."
    What's next?
    "The sky isn't blue, it's blue"???
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I'm not particularly interested in discussing this with Gardener, as he is basically a robot, but figured the other poster could at least answer the question without having it turn into a huge ordeal. Guess not. :-X
    I didn't see this turning into a huge ordeal at all. Gardener brought up some valid points, why do you disregard them? You asked about Gazans, he answered you.
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    Re: Is the Term "Jew" Offensive?

    LOL right he answered by asking me a question about terrorists when we were discussing Gazan civilians, sure.

    I'm not going to continue this here because I don't want to get infracted, even though it's strange that we can't discuss Middle East issues outside of that forum yet European issues are regularly discussed outside of the Europe forum...
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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