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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why do so many think that marriage is all about sex?

    Monogamy, even within marriages, should be up to the couple. If a couple consent to go outside of their marriage for sex, then that should be up to them.

    Even if some of those homosexuals who get married do agree to have sex outside of their marriage, I'd bet that they establish certain rules to help try to reduce their chances of getting some STD or HIV, since now they know that their decisions to have unsafe sex, could also affect the health/life of their loved one. The same is most likely true for heterosexuals who go outside of their marriage for sex. People are more likely to be more cautious when their decisions affect a loved one's health, not just their own.

    Plus, marriage is not just about setting up a sexual partner. It is also about establishing a person who will make legal and/or financial decisions for another person with just one legal document, instead of several.
    I've argued all along in this thread that marriage, as an institution, served as a vehicle to promote the procreation and rearing of children (sorta important if you actually want your culture/society to actually continue existng). It also has the advantages of retarding std's (for those of us silly enough to think of monogamy as a good thing) and women who are married suffer less abuse than then cohabitating women.

    According to the liberals on this thread I'm all wrong. Marriage actually only serves two valid purposes; as a vehicle for the acceptance of gays in society (something that already exists for all practicle purposes) and for the sake of the lawyers. Remarkable.

    And people think america is a seriously divided country.


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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I've argued all along in this thread that marriage, as an institution, served as a vehicle to promote the procreation and rearing of children. It also has the advantages of retarding std's (for those silly enough to think of monogamy as a good thing) and women who are married suffer less abuse than then cohabitating women.

    According to the liberals on this thread I'm all wrong. Marriage actually only serves two valid purposes; as a vehicle for the acceptance of gays in society (something that already exists for all practicle purposes) and for the sake of the lawyers. Remarkable.

    And people think america is a seriously divided country.

    When did anyone say those things? And how is SSM not for the rearing of children, the lessening of STD's, and love?
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I've argued all along in this thread that marriage, as an institution, served as a vehicle to promote the procreation and rearing of children. It also has the advantages of retarding std's (for those silly enough to think of monogamy as a good thing) and women who are married suffer less abuse than then cohabitating women.

    According to the liberals on this thread I'm all wrong. Marriage actually only serves two valid purposes; as a vehicle for the acceptance of gays in society (something that already exists for all practicle purposes) and for the sake of the lawyers. Remarkable.

    And people think america is a seriously divided country.


    Actually, you just brought up the best arguments for SSM without realizing it. Children, lower STD rate, more stable homes.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Not to mention same sex couples who are married are more likely to adopt or to use a surrogate or invitro to procreate. You ultimately get the same result.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    So, provide a source that indicates marriage changes promiscuous behavior in people already.
    See, I never said this. What I DID say is that marriage provides a more stable environment for people. This is one of the reasons that government sanctions marriage. Or do you disagree with this reason?

    Ok, I'm waiting. However, be able to show those studies all 67 or so of them are also comparing apples to apples with large enough study groups to provide validity, for starters.
    They do all that. And after I do, let's see YOUR sources. And I would hope that none of them have the names "Cameron" or "Schumm" on them, and they do not have so many methodological flaws that I could drive a truck through them.




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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I've argued all along in this thread that marriage, as an institution, served as a vehicle to promote the procreation and rearing of children (sorta important if you actually want your culture/society to actually continue existng). It also has the advantages of retarding std's (for those of us silly enough to think of monogamy as a good thing) and women who are married suffer less abuse than then cohabitating women.

    According to the liberals on this thread I'm all wrong. Marriage actually only serves two valid purposes; as a vehicle for the acceptance of gays in society (something that already exists for all practicle purposes) and for the sake of the lawyers. Remarkable.

    And people think america is a seriously divided country.


    This is an excellent example of you distorting what others are saying. Marriage performs several important functions in society. Child rearing. Societal stabilty. Improved health. Please demonstrate any one of these things that would not be benefitted by gays being allowed to marry.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    When did anyone say those things? And how is SSM not for the rearing of children, the lessening of STD's, and love?
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    Actually, you just brought up the best arguments for SSM without realizing it. Children, lower STD rate, more stable homes.
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Not to mention same sex couples who are married are more likely to adopt or to use a surrogate or invitro to procreate. You ultimately get the same result.
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    This is an excellent example of you distorting what others are saying. Marriage performs several important functions in society. Child rearing. Societal stabilty. Improved health. Please demonstrate any one of these things that would not be benefitted by gays being allowed to marry.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    When did anyone say those things? And how is SSM not for the rearing of children, the lessening of STD's, and love?
    Oh, let's see; homosexual couples rarely produce children, sleeping around is a really, really, good way to contact and spread std's, and......I never actually mentioned love. Why the hell would you bring that issue up on a thread debating the uses/function of marriage?

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Oh, let's see; homosexual couples rarely produce children
    http://www.law.ucla.edu/williamsinst...tionReport.pdf

    So wrong on your first point.

    sleeping around is a really, really, good way to contact and spread std's, and
    Marriage tends to lead to increased fidelity, which lowers STD rates.

    ......I never actually mentioned love. Why the hell would you bring that issue up on a thread debating the uses/function of marriage?
    Your really did not just say that, right?
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