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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

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    I don't think a 50% divorce rate is worth fighting for. Frankly I don't see why gays even bother.
    Here's an excellent answer to this statement:

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

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    Monogamy isn't required for stability. Polygamy can promote stability quite well, if not better than monogamy.
    And you, of course, have facts and evidence to back this up.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Marriage already exists, so there is no reason to lobby for it. Why aren't there pro-human race groups promoting the human race instead of groups promoting black rights, or white rights?
    As much as I hate to use them as a link....

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    You seem to be arguing just for the sake of arguing.
    Arguing for the sake of arguing is the expressed point and purpose of this forums very existence. In fact I think that's all I've ever don here. Like those lil awards for reverse debates and whatnot...arguing for the sake of arguing.

    You think anyone really gives a **** about SSM? I mean, is truly passionate either way? Not enough to populate this forum, anyway. They are few and far between.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't think a 50% divorce rate is worth fighting for. Frankly I don't see why gays even bother.
    Just because you have such a negative view on marriage doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to make up my own mind on whether or not I get married.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Polygamy doesn't fit with ANY of the positives that do with both GM and traditional marriage.
    Then you are discriminating, anti-American and against freedom, And then you must also think that marriage for a man and woman of two different races is not a right?

    If you're giving rights to some people, but denying them to others, well, that sounds like discrimination to me.

    As long as the marriage contract exist, then it is discrimination.

    You are using the government to force your definition of marriage on something that is none of your business. If 3 people love each other they should be able to get married!


    For the majority its about EQUAL treatment and fighting DISCRIMINATION
    what logic says that fighting for marriage rights (something the is UNEQUALLY denied) makes it about something else and that fight for "other" things would make it for equal rights?

    was interracial marriage only about being accepted?
    womens rights?
    minority rights?

    Sorry but you have it backwards.


    Quotes by others in this thread, some are paraphrased as best I can remember. I am applying them to polygamy.

    This does not represent their view and is just an example.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As much as I hate to use them as a link....

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    That's human RIGHTS. I stated the human RACE. I'm not talking about rights, but the existence of the race in general.



    Arguing for the sake of arguing is the expressed point and purpose of this forums very existence. In fact I think that's all I've ever don here. Like those lil awards for reverse debates and whatnot...arguing for the sake of arguing.

    You think anyone really gives a **** about SSM? I mean, is truly passionate either way? Not enough to populate this forum, anyway. They are few and far between.
    You're arguing for the sake of arguing... which means that you are just arguing to be argumentative. You're not arguing a position. You're just arguing. If that's what you want to do, that's on you. I'm just pointing it out.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then you are discriminating, anti-American and against freedom, And then you must also think that marriage for a man and woman of two different races is not a right?

    If you're giving rights to some people, but denying them to others, well, that sounds like discrimination to me.

    As long as the marriage contract exist, then it is discrimination.

    You are using the government to force your definition of marriage on something that is none of your business. If 3 people love each other they should be able to get married!


    For the majority its about EQUAL treatment and fighting DISCRIMINATION
    what logic says that fighting for marriage rights (something the is UNEQUALLY denied) makes it about something else and that fight for "other" things would make it for equal rights?

    was interracial marriage only about being accepted?
    womens rights?
    minority rights?

    Sorry but you have it backwards.


    Quotes by others in this thread, some are paraphrased as best I can remember. I am applying them to polygamy.

    This does not represent their view and is just an example.
    Sorry, BD, but this does not have any relevance to my position on polygamy at all. Since it doesn't apply, you might want to try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    [b]Then you are discriminating...
    There is nothing wrong with discrimination as long as it is rational. We discriminate between selling guns to regular citizens and selling guns to felons. We discriminate between selling alcohol and tobacco to adults versus selling alcohol and tobacco to minors.

    There are rational reasons behind why we discriminate in that fashion. You have to be pretty stupid to argue that all discrimination is bad and anti American and I don't know many people who do, so anyone who argues such is making a strawman and hyperbole.

    There are lots of rational reasons why we should discriminate against polygamy but there are NO good reasons why we should discriminate against same sex marriage.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Sorry, BD, but this does not have any relevance to my position on polygamy at all. Since it doesn't apply, you might want to try again.
    Not directed at you are your argument. You just happened to make the last post, lol.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not directed at you are your argument. You just happened to make the last post, lol.
    Perhaps, but it still mischaracterizes my argument. Do you think that not allowing 1 year olds the right to vote is discrimination?
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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