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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Oh so now we switch to a commercial website

    Show me the actual law.

    Might I suggest you look at DOMA.
    So because a site is "commercial" it is somehow unable to provide the legal definition?

    It is the legal definition, has nothing to do with the DOMA.

    Please try and come up with a valid argument.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So because a site is "commercial" it is somehow unable to provide the legal definition?

    It is the legal definition, has nothing to do with the DOMA.

    Please try and come up with a valid argument.

    Try coming up with a valid definition.

    That first site was hilarious though.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Try coming up with a valid definition.

    That first site was hilarious though.
    It is the legal definition in every law dictionary. So far you have offered nothing at all to refute it because you can't, and you know it. So instead of an argument, you try desperately to attack the sources which are correct no less.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Our "smart, tolerant, advanced and civil, society and equality wise as we are today." is a joke compared to what it was. Yes slavery and womens suffrage were wrong and a part of the times, but we are no better. With rampant crime, immorality and going broke quicker than **** through a goose. Our society is a pathetic crumbling joke.

    It's up to those of us with back bone to stand up and say no more. While those who see everything as "gray" sit back and let it happen. Because if everything is gray, there is no right or wrong. All bets are off because of politically correct nonsense.
    so all that stuff impacts our society equality wise? hmm news to me.
    You are right it is up to people with a back bone to fight for their fellow americans and for their freedoms rights and equal liberties. Thats what Im doing Its the weak, dishonest, selfish and scared that only care about themselves.

    good move bailing out on that founders thing to btw.

    Everything IS grey because everything IS circumstantial, thats reality.

    EDIT NOTE, your reply is my fault I looked back and had and AND in between society and equality wise, there shouldn't be one.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is the legal definition in every law dictionary. So far you have offered nothing at all to refute it because you can't, and you know it. So instead of an argument, you try desperately to attack the sources which are correct no less.

    Then you should have no problem sourcing it from an actual law dictionary should you?

    Good luck

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Funny you would cut out the last part of my post, no biggie I am used to it.

    Fact is you asked for reasons and I gave you many and many more exist. Don't really feel bothered by the fact you don't agree with it.

    In the end it is just opinion as it has not happened. So your opinion or speculation on said matter really does not matter.
    What was the last part? That last post I had poorly edited as I was writting it when I was not in lab and didn't take care to get rid of bolds and quote right apparently. Regardless, I don't think the speculation is on my part. It's completely on yours. Like somehow your right to free speech will be infringed upon, or blah blah blah; lots of stuff made up with no proof. You gave "reasons", but none were logical or grounded in reality. And I explained the break down of all of those "points".
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    so all that stuff impacts our society equality wise? hmm news to me.
    Not certain what you mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    You are right it is up to people with a back bone to fight for their fellow americans and for their freedoms rights and equal liberties. Thats what Im doing
    I don't know if you are doing anything or not. You seem to think debating on web sites is somehow an effective crusade, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Its the weak, dishonest, selfish and scared that only care about themselves.
    Yea tell that to a 12 year vet.

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    Everything IS grey because everything IS circumstantial, thats reality.
    And this my friend is the problem.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Then you should have no problem sourcing it from an actual law dictionary should you?

    Good luck
    You have got to be kidding? Law.com | Legal News, Technology, In-House Counsel, & Small Firms Legal Resources has a legal dictionary.

    JURIST - Legal Dictionaries also jumps to the same site.

    1 : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a legal, consensual, and contractual relationship recognized and sanctioned by and dissolvable only by law see also divorce - Marriage: Definition of marriage. Define marriage

    How many sites do I need to go to?
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What was the last part? That last post I had poorly edited as I was writting it when I was not in lab and didn't take care to get rid of bolds and quote right apparently.
    Ahh OK. I was a little hurt, lol as you have been pretty level so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Regardless, I don't think the speculation is on my part. It's completely on yours. Like somehow your right to free speech will be infringed upon, or blah blah blah; lots of stuff made up with no proof. You gave "reasons", but none were logical or grounded in reality. And I explained the break down of all of those "points".
    This is what I mean, I said and you missed it "some I agree with and some I don't." I am not going to break it down as it is not necessary to be honest. Your saying it will have no effect is as much speculation or a guess as my saying it will. So nothing to do but wait and see how it plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not certain what you mean.
    you probably missed my edit my fault



    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't know if you are doing anything or not. You seem to think debating on web sites is somehow an effective crusade, lol.
    You dont need to know and the second part is just a wild guess and ASSumption by you and a wrong one as usual LMAO



    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yea tell that to a 12 year vet.
    Meaningless
    100% meaningless to be exact
    First who said I was talking about you? guilt? I was speaking in general.
    2ndly you could be a 50 year vet and still only care about yourself and not others. Being a military man is RESPECTABLE. Stereotypically I hold military men and woman in high regard but at the end of the day they are humans and they have their mix of geniuses/retards, selfless/selfish, tolerant/bigots, caring/assholes just like civilians. Another non black white issue, its grey just like reality. Vet doesnt not = good person. It very well could = bad person.

    So keep saying your a vet like it proves something, it doesnt, all it means is exactly what the term definition is, you served.




    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And this my friend is the problem.
    Nope, not mine, not societies, just yours.
    What it is, is reality, EVERYTHING is circumstantial.

    Let me know when you have something on topic to debate.
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