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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Please you are just parroting what you have already said Ikari, and it still does not mean anything more than it did.
    It just means that you can't actually answer any of the direct questions and all you can do is deflect.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That's good that you think for yourself. Don't expect me to think the same way you do or accept the same things. We are all different, get used to it.
    We are all different and YOU should get used to it. We're not the ones looking to whitewash society.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It just means that you can't actually answer any of the direct questions and all you can do is deflect.
    That is not true and you know it. You have said the same things over and over. Nothing has changed but your wording.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We are all different and YOU should get used to it. We're not the ones looking to whitewash society.
    I am, but I also am not afraid to stand up for what I believe even if you and others feel "it's none of my business" is a good excuse.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is not true and you know it. You have said the same things over and over. Nothing has changed but your wording.
    Then how about instead of all these deflections you keep throwing around, you actually back up what you're saying. I have. What I propose does not infringe upon the rights of anyone, in fact it recognizes and respects the rights of others. So you want to talk big and say it's not true. Then prove it. I'm waiting.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I am, but I also am not afraid to stand up for what I believe even if you and others feel "it's none of my business" is a good excuse.
    We used to have a fairly good understand of what was our business in this country and what wasn't. One of the pitfalls we've encountered is this idea that what everyone else does is your business and you have a say in what people should be allowed to do when they are not infringing upon the rights of others. Now we have to deal with all sorts of people running to government to attempt to get their morality forced on everyone else instead of just saying, "it's a free country". Less and less free, which is not a productive direction to go.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    I just saw the updated poll results, and am quite disgusted. How the hell is gay marriage a special right?? Straight people can marry whoever they want. But if a gay person wants to do the same, they're asking for something extra? That's just retarded, I'm sorry. People need to worry about themselves more.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I'm of a libertarian mindset and I believe in God, and yet I do not find anything in the Bible which would lead me to believe that God would be against same sex marriage. The arguments against homosexuality were Man's law, not God's law.
    All I can say is you are reading a different Bible, as it is pretty clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    But of course I have my interpretation and you have yours. I do not put the Bible above God because to do so would be to have another god before God. That aside, what right do you have to impose your particular interpretation of what you believe the Bible says is moral and immoral? And at what point does reason step in and you ask yourself what harm does homosexuality really cause to society as compared to other activities like smoking?
    You are correct we do have different interpretations. You wish to leave out huge parts of the Bible and it's teachings so it can fit your life style. I on the other hand take it, the whole Bible as Gods word. That is where the difference lies. I am not putting the Bible above God, it is his word.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Technically, marriage has been redefined numerous times in history. Currently, the definition you support is that an individual can marry as many people of the opposite sex as they want as long as they are married to only one person at a time. Jesus Christ would most definitely not support the serial monogamy definition of marriage that our country currently embraces.
    Wait, you mean the same guy who said...

    Mark 10:6-9 "6 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' 7 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh. 9 What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder."

    I mean he was on the subject of divorce, but it's pretty clear on what marraige is.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    And yet I do not see you striving against that definition of marriage, seeking to outlaw divorce and punish adulterers, so I cannot be convinced that you are motivated by religion.
    So because no one has brought it up for debate, even though I have been clear with you and others in debate about those things, my motivation must be something else?

    I have been married 1 time and I am still married. I have not cheated and divorce is allowed in the case of adultery. I try and lead by example as the Bible says.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    To the contrary, I think you are motivated by an animosity toward what you perceive as the sin of homosexuality, and you have no such animosity towards the sins of divorce or adultery.
    This is not true. But you can think what you like.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then how about instead of all these deflections you keep throwing around, you actually back up what you're saying. I have. What I propose does not infringe upon the rights of anyone, in fact it recognizes and respects the rights of others. So you want to talk big and say it's not true. Then prove it. I'm waiting.
    No deflections, read the thread. You keep asking the same questions over again because you don't like my answers.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    I just saw the updated poll results, and am quite disgusted. How the hell is gay marriage a special right?? Straight people can marry whoever they want. But if a gay person wants to do the same, they're asking for something extra? That's just retarded, I'm sorry. People need to worry about themselves more.
    You should know that is some lame ass stacking the pole. No one at this web site has voted for that. Except the idiot stacking it.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-06-11 at 04:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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