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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes it will, by allowing it.
    And you have proof of this? Other than some vague sense of "morality" fueled by your personal interpretation of your god?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    It's only morally wrong because of your religion. Which isn't even a little important to me.
    It's not about you, it's about what I think and feel etc.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It's not about you, it's about what I think and feel etc.
    No, it's about respecting the rights and liberties of the individual and proper roles of government.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It's not about you, it's about what I think and feel etc.
    You can think and feel whatever you want. I personally think you are morally inferior to me, but apparently you're allowed to breathe the same air.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And you have proof of this? Other than some vague sense of "morality" fueled by your personal interpretation of your god?
    Nothing "vague" about how I feel. Yes I have seen plenty of proof.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    You can think and feel whatever you want. I personally think you are morally inferior to me, but apparently you're allowed to breathe the same air.
    Thats great, you just hold on to that air of "moral superiority" it makes you a much better person.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Thats great, you just hold on to that air of "moral superiority" it makes you a much better person.
    So your morals are the only ones that matter?
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, it's about respecting the rights and liberties of the individual and proper roles of government.
    And as I have pointed out we have different views on what role the government and individual play. Neither is superior to the other.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    So your morals are the only ones that matter?
    To me? Of course. Why would your moral code or ethics be my concern? I do not expect you to be overly concerned with mine either.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You mite as well ask me to explain why I believe in God. All I can say is because I see it as just one more immoral act trying to gain social acceptance. Hell, we have people now saying incest is OK. Just look back at a few of the threads.
    I'm of a libertarian mindset and I believe in God, and yet I do not find anything in the Bible which would lead me to believe that God would be against same sex marriage. The arguments against homosexuality were Man's law, not God's law. But of course I have my interpretation and you have yours. I do not put the Bible above God because to do so would be to have another god before God. That aside, what right do you have to impose your particular interpretation of what you believe the Bible says is moral and immoral? And at what point does reason step in and you ask yourself what harm does homosexuality really cause to society as compared to other activities like smoking?

    I will not support a redefining of marriage to mean gay couples, period.
    Technically, marriage has been redefined numerous times in history. Currently, the definition you support is that an individual can marry as many people of the opposite sex as they want as long as they are married to only one person at a time. Jesus Christ would most definitely not support the serial monogamy definition of marriage that our country currently embraces. And yet I do not see you striving against that definition of marriage, seeking to outlaw divorce and punish adulterers, so I cannot be convinced that you are motivated by religion. To the contrary, I think you are motivated by an animosity toward what you perceive as the sin of homosexuality, and you have no such animosity towards the sins of divorce or adultery.

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