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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    so let me get this straight

    YOU post links to Websters that did NOT support YOUR claim. I point out that what YOU posted you obviously didnt read and did NOT support YOUR claim.

    So now YOU come back with NEW sources in an attempt to gloat?

    LMAO
    thats rich, you again fail. lol

    Fact is what you posted before did NOT support your claim.
    I set you up

    Don't troll a troll

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Can anybody tell me how marriage is legally recognized?

    you guessed it, by a LEGAL CONTRACT.
    Municipally issued license, specifically.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    i thought this thread was "what is same-sex marriage". in which case you have to discuss the institution. and the government is involved in the legal aspect only to the degree and with the means by which society directs it to. the people are free to change it on the government, government is not free to change it on the people.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    i thought this thread was "what is same-sex marriage". in which case you have to discuss the institution. and the government is involved in the legal aspect only to the degree and with the means by which society directs it to. the people are free to change it on the government, government is not free to change it on the people.
    Considering the poll options, it would be about marriage as a legal construct. Rights in this country are recognized and protected by the laws of this country. Government is a tool of society and works as society directs, therefore your last sentence is meaningless. It's like saying the body changes where the hand goes, the hand is not free to change where the body goes. It's nonsense, they are both part of the same whole.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    our representative branches work (theoretically) as we direct it, however, let's not pretend that government in all it's functions works as society directs. it is, in fact, precisely for that reason that the homosexual marriage advocates have been seeking out the least "directed" or "responsive" branch of government.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    our representative branches work (theoretically) as we direct it, however, let's not pretend that government in all it's functions works as society directs. it is, in fact, precisely for that reason that the homosexual marriage advocates have been seeking out the least "directed" or "responsive" branch of government.
    Now you are just spinning. We set out a set of rules for our society(us) that even we cannot in theory break and are under the jurisdiction of the courts. They are still safeguarding our rules. Government does not just work for us, it is part of us. This flies in the face of those who try and set government up as the enemy, but that concept is obviously retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Now you are just spinning. We set out a set of rules for our society(us) that even we cannot in theory break and are under the jurisdiction of the courts. They are still safeguarding our rules
    no, they have set themselves up as equal to those rules, and a non-representative source for them. that's the reason i bring up Cooper.

    Government does not just work for us, it is part of us. This flies in the face of those who try and set government up as the enemy, but that concept is obviously retarded.
    that is absolutely incorrect. government is a seperate entity from society.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it certainly is not. since the legal system stems from that social institution, it remains bound to it.
    Ours has been seperated out, however. Society gains a lot of control and get a lot of say. But society is not allowed to infringe upon the rights of the minority to get their way. Sorry, but that's the system. Advocation for government force against the rights and liberties of the individual when said individual has not infringed upon the rights and liberties of others is nothing short of tyranny. And the very reason why the minority should be well armed.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    similarly marriage remains a legally recognized social institution.
    That was true up until the point in which the Marriage License came into existence. At that point, it left social institution behind and became contract. And the individual has right to contract.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that is absolutely incorrect. government is a seperate entity from society.
    Make up your mind man. Either society binds the legal system, or it is seperate from it. Which one?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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