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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

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    No, I don't care if you accept me or not, all I care about is being treated the same as you. Big difference.
    Hey You Star whats your opinion on the whole name change?
    I have more than a dozen gay friends and all of them but one think it would be a slap in the face. Now about half admit if it came down to it they would probably very well accept it but think it would be giving in and letting the bad guy wins.

    Just curious what your take is since mine is kinda in the middle, i definitely see their point but not me gay myself Im always curious of those views.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    If gays are allowed to marry the same sex then everyone is allowed to marry the same sex. Sounds equal under the law to me. Just because you wouldn't want to marry the same sex doesn't mean that you didn't have the right to do so.
    oh its VERY equal its just more empty spin
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    oh its VERY equal its just more empty spin
    So basically it is just mindless rhetoric that he is repeating?

    Gosh, I feel sorry for conformists.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Hey You Star whats your opinion on the whole name change?
    I have more than a dozen gay friends and all of them but one think it would be a slap in the face. Now about half admit if it came down to it they would probably very well accept it but think it would be giving in and letting the bad guy wins.

    Just curious what your take is since mine is kinda in the middle, i definitely see their point but not me gay myself Im always curious of those views.
    I see no point in the name change, why would the government have two names for something that is the same, and I also think it would be unconstitutional. You know, the whole separate but equal thing. It's a rather pointless distinction, and nothing more than a tactic to try and delay the inevitable passage of SSM.

    And I agree, if it came down to it, I would take it, but I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen it would be ruled unconstitutional at some point.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So basically it is just mindless rhetoric that he is repeating?

    Gosh, I feel sorry for conformists.






    you got it
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I see no point in the name change, why would the government have two names for something that is the same, and I also think it would be unconstitutional. You know, the whole separate but equal thing. It's a rather pointless distinction, and nothing more than a tactic to try and delay the inevitable passage of SSM.

    And I agree, if it came down to it, I would take it, but I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen it would be ruled unconstitutional at some point.
    Sorry I wasnt clear, the different names for different things DEFINITELY is still discrimination and a HUGE slap in the face.

    I was talking about if ALL marriages were now referred to has civil unions.
    I still think it isnt right because the question would always be asked, WHY was it changed and any honest answer points to discrimination IMO.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Sorry I wasnt clear, the different names for different things DEFINITELY is still discrimination and a HUGE slap in the face.

    I was talking about if ALL marriages were now referred to has civil unions.
    I still think it isnt right because the question would always be asked, WHY was it changed and any honest answer points to discrimination IMO.
    If all marriages were changed I really wouldn't have a problem with that. People could get married by their church(which by the way I could do now, which I find rather funny), and could get the benefits of a civil union by the State. (Which I can't do right now, which I find that rather sad.)
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    that doesnt make sense?
    for the majority its about EQUAL treatment and fighting DISCRIMINATION
    what logic says that fighting for marriage rights (something the is UNEQUALLY denied) makes it about something else and that fight for "other" things would make it for equal rights?

    was interracial marriage only about being accepted?
    womens rights?
    minority rights?
    polygamist rights?
    incest rights?


    you can play that game all day; once you turn marriage into a 'right' (recieving a marriage license is not a right for anyone), then everyone must have access to it irrespective.

    to define marriage is - in this sense - to descriminate; for as soon as you define something you set borders around and say "this but not that". you are basically complaining that we have a definition of marriage even as you decry that we do not have yours.

    you have it backwards
    in fact it is you that have it backwards. marriage is a social institution that is recognized by the government; not the other way around.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    If all marriages were changed I really wouldn't have a problem with that. People could get married by their church(which by the way I could do now, which I find rather funny), and could get the benefits of a civil union by the State. (Which I can't do right now, which I find that rather sad.)
    cool thanks
    Like I said I was just curious, the majority of my friends don't like it but that doesn't mean they speak for all. They just feel like it would be giving in instead of doing whats right. No biggie though, I'm personally up and down on the issue but I would never argue against it if they claimed discrimination.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why should they be forced to take these "alternate" methods?
    they aren't. they are free to take or leave them as they will. however, for them to later complain that they do not access to the 'benefits' of marriage when the only legal 'benefits' they can name are - in fact - accessible to them is disengenious. hence, either they are all suffering from mental degeneration (unlikely), or their goal is not - in fact - those legal benefits.

    The Marriage License is a government issued and recognized contract.
    so are powers of attorney

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