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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He keeps misusing that article and I keep debunking it over and over.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...post1059148626

    I'm just gonna start copying and pasting when I see his posts.
    Oh, and important advice if you go with the cut/paste strategy...make sure you update links.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Look, your links ain't linkin'. This is all I get;
    Looks like the APA changed their site and didn't update the links. I'll have to go look for them. You can read what I wrote, however, I summarized each study with both an abstract and commentary.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    He keeps misusing that article and I keep debunking it over and over.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...post1059148626

    I'm just gonna start copying and pasting when I see his posts.
    You didn't debunk anything. You simply disparaged my article and provided none of your own in response. I'll give you an example from your link.



    my post
    I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your "evidence." Allowing gays the right to marry won't make them behave in ways we want them to. They have their own culture, their own cultural mores, their own belief systems. I'm actually fine with that. I'm simply asking, no, demanding, I and mine be accorded the same.
    your refutation
    The fact that you personally disagree does not change the reality that it is happening. Marriage equality has gradually been changing gay culture in Europe, has been reducing risky sexual behavior, has been reducing STD transmission. But given you could not provide a rebuttal of my evidence, I have to assume you are aware of this and are now simply stubbornly holding to your position due to the emotional/cultural reasons rather than a rational and objective review of the facts.
    Marriage equality has gradually changed gay culture in europe? really? Good, just where is your support for your contention?
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We will have to nickname you CC Jr.
    It's a good strategy. When you get those members who aren't here to debate but just post the same debunked crap over and over again and run from threads when they realize they are losing, then by posting the same rebuttals it shows that nobody is taking them seriously anymore and that they are actually going to have to justify their opinions with valid evidence. Most of them just give up and go away, which is fine by me.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    You didn't debunk anything. You simply disparaged my article and provided none of your own in response. I'll give you an example from your link.



    my post

    your refutation


    Marriage equality has gradually changed gay culture in europe? really? Good, just where is your support for your contention?
    Shouldn't you support your claim first, before expecting him to support his debunking of it?

    By the way, to summarize, we have SSM is good for child raising, stability, monogamy, lower STD rates. So far you have not been able to argue against any of these.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    [SIZE="3"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]You didn't debunk anything. You simply disparaged my article and provided none of your own in response. I'll give you an example from your link.
    The article you presented was only of gays couples in one city in one of the most liberal parts of the country. As such, you cannot generalize it.
    The article you presented provided no comparison to heterosexual couples living in that area. As such, you have no comparison between the attitudes of heterosexual couples in that area to the same sex couples in that area.
    Same sex couples were allowed to marry in California for only 5 months. Do you honestly believe that any major change in human behavior can occur over the course of 5 months?

    I'm sorry, but I get the feeling you are deliberately ignoring the limiations of that article.

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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oh, and important advice if you go with the cut/paste strategy...make sure you update links.
    It was fine when I posted it about 3 months ago.

    I found the links. Will work on updating.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    The APA recreated all the links that I provided into one PDF. Unfortunately, whereas before they had separated the information out into sections, hence my number of links, they have now put it into one report. Here is the PDF. It is a bit unwieldy, but a good read.

    http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parenting-full.pdf

    Oh, and here's another study... from 2010 that supports all the findings from the previous studies: Children of gay parents do just as well as those of straight parents. No differences in adjustment or sexuality. This study looks at adopted children only. What it does determine... no surprisingly, is that the biggest factor in a child's success is parenting style, disciplinary style, and greater happiness in the couple's relationship.

    http://people.virginia.edu/~cjp/articles/ffp10b.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: Same sex marriage: what is it really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We will have to nickname you CC Jr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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