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  • It should be lowered to 18.

    30 27.03%
  • It should be lowered to 13.

    2 1.80%
  • It should be abolished.

    4 3.60%
  • It should remain the same.

    7 6.31%
  • It should be raised to an undetermined age.

    61 54.95%
  • Alcohol should be banned

    3 2.70%
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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    If there had been political impetus and community support to do these things, Federal blackmail wouldn't have been necessary.
    Look, put aside the paranoia and political axes to grind and instead examine the historical record. The facts were pretty simple that many bar owners themselves lobbied to have the age raised back up. The guy I worked for testified before the state legislature with a bunch of other club owners asking for the age to be raised back up because the fights from kids were ruining his business as older patrons started to stay away. People were genuinely concerned and scared about the rise in drunk driving arrests and accidents. These had not a damn thing to do with ideology or politics or government and had everything to do with public safety. I find it amazing that as time goes on, the people who were not there are so in a rush to redefine history for us based on their current beliefs.
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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    I voted that it should be banned. It is a drug and should be treated as such. But since this will never change what the hell. Might as well vote your beliefs.




    For everyone:
    Has anyone considered maybe raising the draft entry and raising the drinking age. So you can purchase tobacco and alcohol at age 20 and you also can't be drafted until 20 either. That usually is the rationale "you fight for the country, you should be treated as an adult and should be able to drink." But if we increase the enlistment age, that rationale becomes moot.

    I am fully aware that the military will not let the enlistment age increase.
    I don't agree with you but I respect how you feel, because we'd probably see things eye to eye on some areas...

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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    I'm really torn about this.

    On the one hand, you look at how alcohol is involved in something like half of all fatal crashes, and about half of all murders. Also, consider the issue that the impulse-control center of the brain doesn't fully develop until early 20's.

    OTOH, I very much agree that it is hypocritical to say that at 18, you can join the army, marry without parental permission, vote, buy guns and ammo, but you can't drink.

    Then there's the societal issues, where as some have said the purpose of drinking (at least for most 20-somethings) is to get completely smashed.

    How do we, as a society, get to the point where people understand that while it is fine to have a beer or two, or a couple glasses of wine, or a small drink... but that getting ****faced is usually a Bad Idea? We seem to be too much inclined to an on/off switch about drinking... its either getting drunk, or at least "buzzed" (ie slightly drunk), or not drinking at all, for many.

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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    You can be drafted, sued, convicted as an adult and sent to the gas chamber at 18. You should be able to buy alcohol at 18.

    The 21 y/o drinking age is just more nanny-statism.
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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm really torn about this.

    On the one hand, you look at how alcohol is involved in something like half of all fatal crashes, and about half of all murders. Also, consider the issue that the impulse-control center of the brain doesn't fully develop until early 20's.

    OTOH, I very much agree that it is hypocritical to say that at 18, you can join the army, marry without parental permission, vote, buy guns and ammo, but you can't drink.

    Then there's the societal issues, where as some have said the purpose of drinking (at least for most 20-somethings) is to get completely smashed.

    How do we, as a society, get to the point where people understand that while it is fine to have a beer or two, or a couple glasses of wine, or a small drink... but that getting ****faced is usually a Bad Idea? We seem to be too much inclined to an on/off switch about drinking... its either getting drunk, or at least "buzzed" (ie slightly drunk), or not drinking at all, for many.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    I agree with lowering the drinking age to 18, for the reason Viktyr expressed.




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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    I agree that some 18 year olds can be really really stupid, immature, annoying, irresponsible, etc. etc. I even remember when I turned 21, and I had my first legal drink. It was a frozen strawberry daiquiri, because I didn't know what I would like... and I barely drank anything the rest of the year.

    I wasn't big on drinking at 21... it seemed like when I was 16, 17, 18, etc. I couldn't wait until I was 21..

    Now I just drink a little wine before I go to sleep.

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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Florida has ridiculous laws. Apparently, it's against the law for me to serve my children wine on special occasions in our own home.
    What about wine at Communion at Church?
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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    Quote Originally Posted by hallam View Post
    I voted that it should be banned. It is a drug and should be treated as such. But since this will never change what the hell. Might as well vote your beliefs.

    Caffeine is a drug, too. Wanna ban that as well?
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    Re: Should the drinking age be lowered?

    I also believe teenagers should be allowed to drink under parental supervision. One problem facing teens and college students is that they are never taught how to drink responsibly. Instead, their peers serve as teachers and judges that are not mature and do not have drinking responsibly in mind. I really believe that allowing teenagers to drink under parental supervision and guidance will help lower alcohol abuse and prevent reckless drinking in high school and college.
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