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Thread: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

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    Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    I think so.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I think so.
    conflict of interest. the only exceptions should be people who were born of american parents while the mother was temporarily out of the country or maybe people who immigrated to the US as a child
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    I mean like they are born in another country, and come here and are a US citizen for like 10 years. They should be able to run for president.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Yes, they should. Let the voters decide if there is a conflict of interest on a case-by-case basis, instead of just having a constitutional restriction on EVERYONE born out of the country. There are plenty of foreign-born Americans who would make good presidents, and plenty of natural-born Americans who would make ****ty presidents. It should be, at most, just one more piece of information that the voters can use to evaluate candidates...not a constitutional requirement.

    I think the only constitutional restrictions should be that the person is at least 18 years old and is a US citizen at the time they run for office.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I mean like they are born in another country, and come here and are a US citizen for like 10 years. They should be able to run for president.
    they should have spent the majority of their life here. some guy who is 50 and only been in the US for 10 years should not be allowed to run for POTUS
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    I mean like they are born in another country, and come here and are a US citizen for like 10 years. They should be able to run for president.
    I might be okay, but it would have to be like 50 years, not 10.

    Even that...

    The current rules prevent a long-term mole being trained at an early age, immigrating to the US, and running for president late in life. Or in your scenario, within 10 years…

    The current limitation demands that someone be a natural-born citizen to hold presidential office - and I think this is a good setup, in a generalized way.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The current rules prevent a long-term mole being trained at an early age, immigrating to the US, and running for president late in life. Or in your scenario, within 10 years…
    But the problem is that they are a long-term mole, not that they immigrated to the US. I'm not seeing the connection between the two. And in any case, is this really a big enough worry that it needs to be a constitutional requirement? Why not let the voters judge that on a case-by-case basis?
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Naturalized citizens are often more patriotic than natural-born citizens. I have no problem with allowing anyone who has demonstrated leadership and service to their country to run for any office.

    Is Governor Schwarzenegger any less of an American than President Obama?

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    But the problem is that they are a long-term mole, not that they immigrated to the US. I'm not seeing the connection between the two.
    True.

    But it would make recruiting a long-term mole harder for a rival state, if they had to recruit a natural-born citizen.

    Still, that's not the only reason.

    A life-long citizen who has grown and lives in the USA is more likely to understand many aspects of the country than a recent immigrant - and we're asking them to lead the country.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    True.

    But it would make recruiting a long-term mole harder for a rival state, if they had to recruit a natural-born citizen.

    Still, that's not the only reason.

    A life-long citizen who has grown and lives in the USA is more likely to understand many aspects of the country than a recent immigrant - and we're asking them to lead the country.
    The American people would NEVER vote for a recent immigrant though.

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