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I missed that thing with Obama.
Didn't say that he was "anti-colonial". I do not consider him any less "American" than you or me. I used the hypothetical to show that a person born in this country can still have the same mindset that you want to keep out of Presidential politics. However, Obama was raised in a foreign country during a very formative time in his life. His situation is in many ways similar to those of an immigrant, but he is acceptable to run.
I think that it becomes well tougher to restrict from office naturally born Americans even though there is still the possibility of value confusion. That's a good term, I should use it a lot more. Heheh. Anyway, people naturally born you can't really say "well take this test and we'll see if your values are proper enough to run for this office". However, it is possible to make that clear cut distinction between naturally born and naturalized. It's a lot harder for someone born and raised in central Colorado to be influenced by the idealism and politics of say France. But a French citizen who becomes naturalized as a US citizen may not have fully divorced him/herself from the idealism and politics of their native country. While on the individual level it could happen, aggregated over the whole we see that it doesn't. In the end because we have enough capable and qualified candidates already here, it doesn't seem prudent to confuse the matter.
Until we Lex Luthor California. Then it won't be a problem. Heheh. But yes, values can vary across the States wildly yet even more so nation to nation. That in and of itself, though, does not prove the point. It's already difficult to corridnate ideals and values between the many states. It would be even harder if we start enveloping foriegn values and political agendas into our own.
I would say that an FDLS member is far more out of touch with the American mainstream than a typical Canadian-American. You cannot draw a distinct line. The campaign cycles are dragging out to be be almost two years long at this point. This should be ample time for people to be able to tell if an immigrant is well integrated or not.
It may hold out some well qualified candidates, but we are not hurting for well qualified candidates. We already have enough well qualified candidates as stands. This is just something we don't need to outsource.
I certainly beg to differ.