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Thread: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    So what does Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 mean?

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    Sorry I misspoke, my mistake I thought I had deleted that.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    So what does Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 mean?

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    You do realize that there ARE people born outside the U.S. who are U.S. citizens at birth in accordance with U.S. law???
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You do realize that there ARE people born outside the U.S. who are U.S. citizens at birth in accordance with U.S. law???
    TOJ realizes that. He was just responding to an erroneous claim that I made.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You do realize that there ARE people born outside the U.S. who are U.S. citizens at birth in accordance with U.S. law???
    You are repeating yourself (post #206) and if you could bother yourself to read the damn thread before spouting off you would see I addressed that in post #210.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    You are repeating yourself (post #206) and if you could bother yourself to read the damn thread before spouting off you would see I addressed that in post #210.

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    Then perhaps you should be more precise in your words...
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Then perhaps you should be more precise in your words...
    Don't blame me if you have reading comprehension issues. StillBallin75 understood ok.... but maybe he isn't just trying to be a jackass.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Don't blame me if you have reading comprehension issues. StillBallin75 understood ok.... but maybe he isn't just trying to be a jackass.

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    I just don't have time to remember what everyone said earlier in the thread... again, perhaps you should be more consise and accurate in your words... if others can't understand your point, perhaps that is YOUR problem...
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75
    For the record, the rule that disallows foreign-born citizens from becoming President isn't in the Constitution.
    So what does Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 mean?
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    So what does Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 mean?

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    He was talking about foreign born citizens... again, perhaps you should be more clear in your wording in response... there are some foreign-born citizens who would arguably fall under II-1-5
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I just don't have time to remember what everyone said earlier in the thread... again, perhaps you should be more consise and accurate in your words... if others can't understand your point, perhaps that is YOUR problem...
    Damn, you don't even remember asking the question before? And then you are too lazy to read the posts immediately following that provided answers to that question.

    Maybe you need to take some responsibility for your own shortcomings... but I suppose that is asking too much from your kind.

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    mad Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Even more important than being born in America is being RAISED in America.

    If a person was born here but spent nearly all of his first 15 or more years being raised in cultures foreign to American values, he should be completely disqualified.

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