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Thread: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Plato View Post
    In HK we don't pay taxes to Beijing either. Anyway we have digressed enough. This was a conversation I learned from even if I haven't changed my views very much. I am not that much in disagreement with you on the substance. This is all about form.
    But Beijing clearly has sovereignty over Hong Kong and chooses your chief executive... In Taiwan, the president is chosen by Taiwan's people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But Beijing clearly has sovereignty over Hong Kong and chooses your chief executive... In Taiwan, the president is chosen by Taiwan's people...
    Even if the Chief Executive were elected it wouldn't take away the status of Hong Kong as part of China.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Naturalized citizens are often more patriotic than natural-born citizens. I have no problem with allowing anyone who has demonstrated leadership and service to their country to run for any office.

    Is Governor Schwarzenegger any less of an American than President Obama?
    No, I think they're both naturalized.....
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I think they're both naturalized.....
    You're joking... right?

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    If someone is a citizen at birth, they should be eligible to be president of the United States, regardless of where they are born.

    And DiAnna, I wish he were joking, but I highly doubt it...
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If someone is a citizen at birth, they should be eligible to be president of the United States, regardless of where they are born.

    And DiAnna, I wish he were joking, but I highly doubt it...
    Really? I thought it was common knowledge that someone born on U.S. soil is a citizen at birth (Obama) is eligible to be president, whereas someone born in, say, Austria, who immigrates to the US and later becomes a naturalized citizen (Schwarzenegger) is a naturalized citizen, ineligible to be president.

    I'm actually surprised that there is confusion about this.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    If they are loyal US citizens, then sure, why not?

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I think they're both naturalized.....
    Why isn't there any evidence of Obama being a naturalised citizen then?
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why isn't there any evidence of Obama being a naturalised citizen then?
    Good point. It was quite easy to get my father's naturalization papers.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    You're joking... right?
    yes I was.
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