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Thread: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    The UK and France, seperately, and even without the gridwork of the EU, are still two of the most powerful nations on Earth, militarily, politically and economically. It's a fact, mate. Check wikipedia some time.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The U.S. has a presidential system of government rather than parliamentary. Typically, the head of government in such a system (who is also usually head of state, though in some countries, it is kind of muddled) has more power than the head of government in a parliamentary system...
    Not really. The parliamentary system tends to have a much more integrated legislature and executive. Thus as long as a premier commands a parliamentary majority, which they often must to be premier, then they will pretty much have their own way. Heads of State in these type of democracies (UK, Republic of Ireland, Italy, Israel) are generally devoid of power.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    conflict of interest. the only exceptions should be people who were born of american parents while the mother was temporarily out of the country or maybe people who immigrated to the US as a child
    I would agree, but I'd add.. foreign born children who are adopted by American parents.

    It's really common now that American family's adopt children from places like China and Russia... and I don't think that that should hold them back.

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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    I see no reason to change the constitution to accommodate naturalized citizens, since as far as I know it's the only position in government that prohibits them. However, this brings up a question that I'm not certain how to research. How many countries allow naturalized citizens to be elected to the highest post in their nations? My suspicion is that few, if any, would allow it. Does anyone have evidence to the country? For example, non-Americans, what are the requirements for holding your country's presidential/prime minister/etc. positions?
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I see no reason to change the constitution to accommodate naturalized citizens, since as far as I know it's the only position in government that prohibits them. However, this brings up a question that I'm not certain how to research. How many countries allow naturalized citizens to be elected to the highest post in their nations? My suspicion is that few, if any, would allow it. Does anyone have evidence to the country? For example, non-Americans, what are the requirements for holding your country's presidential/prime minister/etc. positions?
    Since you asked, I will speak for Taiwan. Our country currently has a president who was not born here, he was born in Hong Kong. The law allows naturalized citizens to run for any political office once they have been a citizen for ten years.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Since you asked, I will speak for Taiwan. Our country currently has a president who was not born here, he was born in Hong Kong. The law allows naturalized citizens to run for any political office once they have been a citizen for ten years.
    I was not aware that Hu Jintao was born in Hong Kong?
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Plato View Post
    I was not aware that Hu Jintao was born in Hong Kong?
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Plato View Post
    I was not aware that Hu Jintao was born in Hong Kong?
    HUH?!?!? Hu is the president of China, not Taiwan...
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    HUH?!?!? Hu is the president of China, not Taiwan...
    Taiwan is a province of China and is recognized as such by most of the world, including the USA, through administrations both Democrat and Republican.

    And Taiwan agrees to the principle that there is one China and not a separate "country" called Taiwan. They just think Ma is its president. So even according to Taiwan, its President was born in the country, Hong Kong being part of "one China".

    I hope that Taiwan continues to be a democratic force for good within the People's Republic of China.
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    Re: Should individuals born in foreign countries be able to run for president?

    Taiwan is a province of China and is recognized as such by most of the world, including the USA, through administrations both Democrat and Republican.
    Strictly in "official" terms. Why does the US then regard one as an erstwhile ally while another as a potential adversary? And establish the American Institute in Taiwan as its de facto embassy?

    And Taiwan agrees to the principle that there is one China and not a separate "country" called Taiwan. They just think Ma is its president. So even according to Taiwan, its President was born in the country, Hong Kong being part of "one China".
    Taiwan is not a person. Not everyone (in fact the vast majority of Taiwanese people don't) agree with the One-China principle.

    They just think Ma is its president.
    Taiwan exercises DE FACTO sovereignty over itself. Ma is the president. Hu is not the President of Taiwan in any realistic sense of the word.

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