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Thread: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    What if they are capable of independent and advanced thought? What if they are thinking "should we hunt the humans?" while we are thinking "should we hunt the dolphins?"
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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    What if they are capable of independent and advanced thought? What if they are thinking "should we hunt the humans?" while we are thinking "should we hunt the dolphins?"
    If they're capable of independent and advanced thought and of inflicting any considerable amount of damage upon us, they're capable of demanding rights and there would be a basis upon which to reach an accord.

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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    If they're capable of independent and advanced thought and of inflicting any considerable amount of damage upon us, they're capable of demanding rights and there would be a basis upon which to reach an accord.
    We haven't been able to communicate with them though? So why would they be able to demand rights by communicating with us?

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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    We haven't been able to communicate with them though? So why would they be able to demand rights by communicating with us?
    It doesn't matter why they're not capable. If they're no threat to us and they serve no purpose to us, they don't matter.

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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

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    In Spain dolphins are officially recognized as non-human persons. Scientists also claim that dolphins show signs of being both sentient and sapient (capable of advanced independent thought, similar to humans) and should be considered non-human persons. Do you believe that dolphins should be considered non-human persons?

    Scientists say dolphins should be treated as 'non-human persons' - Times Online

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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    Of course dolphins should be included as people, which means that they shouldn't be allowed to fish in marine parks, we should be able to fine them if they hunt a protected species, and throw them in jail if they don't pay the fine.
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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    In Spain dolphins are officially recognized as non-human persons. Scientists also claim that dolphins show signs of being both sentient and sapient (capable of advanced independent thought, similar to humans) and should be considered non-human persons. Do you believe that dolphins should be considered non-human persons?

    Scientists say dolphins should be treated as 'non-human persons' - Times Online
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    Re: Should dolphins be considered non-human persons?

    I have no problem with protecting dolphins. I think it is kinda silly to have to label them as "persons" in any way to give them the protection however. Dolphins are smart. And, it is quite possible that they may eventually evolve to be able to communicate with other species sometime in the future or we may find an effective way to communicate with them. Maybe they know stuff that we don't.

    Sure, I'm a bleeding heart environmentalist. I don't care. I don't see any reason that we should kill dolphins for food (I don't know of any culture that couldn't survive or that would even be hurt, by not being allowed to eat dolphins). As for eating one animal over another, I'd say that most people have no interest in eating dolphins anyway, and a lot of people do take into consideration the potential intelligence level of the into consideration when making food choices. And dolphins aren't really in our food chain, cows have been there for a long time.

    And, as far as economic reasons go, I usually put the environment ahead of most economic interests. Most things that are done for the environment are not so horrible that they will cause people to starve.
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