No, he isn't a socialist.
No. Now step away from the TV. FauxNews makes Solace a dull boy. Very few people buy that crap. No need on trying to keep selling it.
No. Now step away from the TV. FauxNews makes Solace a dull boy. Very few people buy that crap. No need on trying to keep selling it.
No. Now step away from the TV. FauxNews makes Solace a dull boy. Very few people buy that crap. No need on trying to keep selling it.
Look at his healthcare reform and everything else that he does. He calls himself a Democrat, but he's actually a socialist.
Health care reform mandates people buy private health insurance = not socialism rof
He wants to make it so healthcare is "free"
What he "wants" isn't in the health care bill rof
Try to keep up.
I'm just going to poop this here.
"If one complains that the system of economic and social organization which is based on private property in the means of production does not sufficiently consider the interests of the community, that it serves only the purpose of a single strata, and that it limits productivity; and if therefore one demands with the supporters of the various "social-political" and "social-reform" movements, state interference in all fields of economic life, then one has fundamentally accepted the principle of the socialist programme"- Ludwig von Mises
Singlepayer IS socialist.
If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system...
Given that a lot of people work for insurance companies, a lot of people work for HMOs. You’ve got a whole system of institutions that have been set up. Why not single payer?
People don’t have time to wait. They need relief now. So my attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time—as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s covered—decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.
Perhaps not, but since it is what he wants and believes in, then it makes him a socialist.
It's good to look at his own words. I prefer more complete quotes:
Solace: the gift that just keeps on giving...
Same - sameLook at his healthcare reform and everything else that he does. He calls himself a Democrat, but he's actually a socialist.
I'd agree with this, not just the economy either.Also, if your going to try and put a face to the beginning of major government intervention in the economy it would be FDR.
When were those words spoken?
Obama says a lot of things depending on who he is talking to at the time.
If I were starting a system from scratch, then I think that the idea of moving towards a single-payer system could very well make sense. That’s the kind of system that you have in most industrialized countries around the world.
The only problem is that we’re not starting from scratch. We have historically a tradition of employer-based health care. And although there are a lot of people who are not satisfied with their health care, the truth is, is that the vast majority of people currently get health care from their employers and you’ve got this system that’s already in place. We don’t want a huge disruption as we go into health care reform where suddenly we’re trying to completely reinvent one-sixth of the economy.
So what I’ve said is, let’s set up a system where if you already have health care through your employer and you’re happy with it, you don’t have to change doctors, you don’t have to change plans — nothing changes. If you don’t have health care or you’re highly unsatisfied with your health care, then let’s give you choices, let’s give you options, including a public plan that you could enroll in and sign up for. That’s been my proposal.
The answer is NO. FDR beat him to it.
You're right.
Obama will go down in history as the president who almost transformed America into a complete nanny state.
Conservatives to the rescue!:sword: