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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That is a nonbiased source that is stating facts.

    By the way I have a family member that is gay. I do not hate people just their sinful immoral actions.

    I do not believe choosing a lifestyle gives you a right to special rights.

    Giving benefits for domestic partners is not for gays it also covers heterosexuals.

    Yourstar asked a question that you haven't answered and I'm also very curious: what makes being gay immoral? The fact that you don't choose that lifestyle? I truly don't understand how people can be against gays... I mean, why not? And please, don't mention religion. I want a pragmatic reason.

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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    They treat gays with respect. They give domstic partners rights it is not just gays. How much money does coke give to gay pride marches. See how you take things out of context to decieve people
    The GULLY | Commercial Closet | Pepsi Marches Into Gay Pride

    A greater presence for Diet Pepsi in gay media is anticipated later this year, though no details are confirmed. Intriguingly, gay themes have already crept into the company's general ads. Its Doritos brand featured a commercial with Enrique Iglesias that has a gay tease joke, while Lays showed several guys posturing not to touch each other during a sporting event. Up in Canada, a flamboyant man broke the news of his "bisexuality" in a Pepsi commercial in which he declared that he loved both Pepsi and Diet Pepsi.

    Pepsi was also a recent sponsor of Canada's PrideVision gay TV network. Arch-enemy Coca-Cola supported Divers/cité, Montreal's Gay Pride event, but has not yet made U.S. gay marketing efforts, aside from sponsorship of Gay Pride in Atlanta, its home city.
    As I stated before. I do not need to insult you to destroy your illogical arguments. You should stop drinking Coca-Cola. You might get homo-cooties.
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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    No.

    Corporations are not people, they are institutions, and as such they have no other moral obligation than to fulfill their purpose, which is to generate profit for their owners. Any humanitarian efforts or ethical constraints displayed by a corporation are, and should be, in furtherance of that goal.

    Likewise, governments are institutions with the purpose of protecting their citizens. If a corporation's activities harm the citizens, it is the government's moral obligation to correct the situation.

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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    I'd like to think so.

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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    No.

    Corporations are not people, they are institutions, and as such they have no other moral obligation than to fulfill their purpose, which is to generate profit for their owners. Any humanitarian efforts or ethical constraints displayed by a corporation are, and should be, in furtherance of that goal.
    I think this is a perfect illustration of the mindset which I completely disagree with. When corporations are viewed as anonymous entities, rather than as collections of people, people are more willing to forgive their ethical transgressions to an extent that most people would NEVER tolerate from partnerships or sole proprietorships that are linked much more closely with a specific person's livelihood.

    Most people frown on individuals behaving unethically in pursuit of a profit...even if their actions are legal. Yet somehow that same mindset vanishes entirely when talking about large groups of people (i.e. corporations), and the unethical actions of corporations are tolerated or even praised as doing what is necessary to maximize profit.
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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Most people frown on individuals behaving unethically in pursuit of a profit...even if their actions are legal.
    If so many frown upon their actions, and frown upon them so severely, then why should they continue to be legal in the first place?

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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    If so many frown upon their actions, and frown upon them so severely, then why should they continue to be legal in the first place?
    Well, that's a completely separate issue. I'm not necessarily saying that it "should" be legal in all cases, but you know as well as I do that the law is a slow-moving animal that lags years behind the public conscience. Furthermore, the government might not always be ABLE to police every ethical transgression, or making it illegal might create other unintended consequences. But regardless of WHY something hasn't been made illegal, most people would frown on unethical actions.

    For example, what would you think of an individual who buys a product and returns it to take advantage of the rebate? Or someone selling a car who withholds negative information from prospective buyers? Or someone who sues anyone who crosses him just for the sake of harrassment? These actions are all (usually) legal...but few people would approve of the lack of ethics behind them. And if the person's only justification was "I made a lot of money within the bounds of the law," that would probably incite an even MORE negative reaction from the public.

    Yet when a corporation behaves legally but unethically, many people tolerate it. And some even PRAISE the corporation for doing what is necessary to maximize their profit. I think this is due to the fact that a corporation seems more removed from our day-to-day lives than individuals do, rather than any rational distinction between individuals and corporations that makes this kind of behavior acceptable for one and not the other.
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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    No. Corporations are not people,
    The law has stated otherwise on several occasions.
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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    The law has stated otherwise on several occasions.
    That's my problem with this. If corporations want to be treated legally as individuals, they should also be forced to behave ethically as individuals. They can't choose to be legally individuals until they realize it has some cons, thats just too blatantly hypocritical for my tastes.
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    Re: Do businesses have any ethical responsibilities, beyond obeying the law?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    That's my problem with this. If corporations want to be treated legally as individuals, they should also be forced to behave ethically as individuals. They can't choose to be legally individuals until they realize it has some cons, thats just too blatantly hypocritical for my tastes.
    I don't believe any corporate body would be freed of the obligations set forth by the criminal code. And many individuals on this thread seem to be basing ethics on law and not the other way around.

    Corporations are no more individualistic than a union, an association, an agency, a movement, a group, or even your casual neighborhood get-together. It is unethical and unconstitutional to restrict the freedom of corporations to speak or to spend their own money as it is to restrict the above mentioned organizations from doing the same things. Corporations are GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS, and ALL GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS share the same rights enumerated in the constitution.

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