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What society has more chance to survive; liberal or conservative?

What society has more chance to survive in the next 100 years?

  • Socialist liberal

    Votes: 9 45.0%

  • Christian conservative

    Votes: 5 25.0%

  • No opinion

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Total voters
    20
Albert Di Salvo said:
What society has more chance to survive in the next 100 years?

Western society won't survive. In Europe society will ultimately be overpowered by Muslim demographics. If there is any hope for Islam it will be through a europeanized islam. But the problem is that white euro culture will be extirpated in the process.

America's future is to become Mexico.

The only future is for East and South Asians. They aren't confused. They know who they are and don't struggle with identity.
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East Asia has a demographic problem worse then Europe. South Korea, Japan and China all have rapidly ageing populations, with I think Italy being the only major european country to exceed the aging and population decline of east asia
 
Whatever society the people within it are most comfortable and stable living in will be the one that survives the longest. Are there any other questions? Its the same reason if you took a bunch of tribal individuals from Papua New Guinea and dumped them off in Manhattan their society wouldn't last long, neither probably would their lives. Same goes with a bunch of Manhattan urbanites in the middle of a South Asia jungle.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
East Asia has a demographic problem worse then Europe. South Korea, Japan and China all have rapidly ageing populations, with I think Italy being the only major european country to exceed the aging and population decline of east asia
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South Korea will solve its problem by continuing importation of brides from Vietnam, the Philippines, etc. China is importing brides from North Korea. It already allows rural couples to have two children, and it will relent on the one child policy in the cities. China can also import brides from a variety of SE Asian countries.

The Japanese will die out on an effective basis. More room for Chinese settlers.

Western Europe has no such alternatives. They can't import brides to build the population. Economic circumstances dictate that white europeans don't have children very often. White americans are more likely to have children, but opportunities for their children will be diverted to other groups deemed more deserving. Mexicans have five children/woman. They can and will travel anywhere. They cannot be deterred. Mexicans are all powerful. Black Americans terminate half of their births. Their population won't increase.
 
... Population growth makes the social policies of Western conservatives untenable. The last 70 years of social history in the west have proven this.
 
Conservatives - cuz we have guns and we're not afraid to defend ourselves.
 
RightinNYC said:
If there were actually a country that directly bordered us with similar demographics and culture, but which were more of a libertarian place, I don't doubt that many would actually head there. We already see this to some degree within the US.
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I agree. Let's not leave out the 'pretend' country. More tea?
 
Fiddytree said:
You're right. He could have a shrine dedicated to himself. Once every week, for about an hour, he meditates on his awesomeness.
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Rev Hellh0und uses this successfully.
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
South Korea will solve its problem by continuing importation of brides from Vietnam, the Philippines, etc. China is importing brides from North Korea. It already allows rural couples to have two children, and it will relent on the one child policy in the cities. China can also import brides from a variety of SE Asian countries.

The Japanese will die out on an effective basis. More room for Chinese settlers.

Western Europe has no such alternatives. They can't import brides to build the population. Economic circumstances dictate that white europeans don't have children very often. White americans are more likely to have children, but opportunities for their children will be diverted to other groups deemed more deserving. Mexicans have five children/woman. They can and will travel anywhere. They cannot be deterred. Mexicans are all powerful. Black Americans terminate half of their births. Their population won't increase.
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Can you prove anything you just wrote?
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Can you prove anything you just wrote?
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South Korea is importing bridea from the Phillipenes, and Vietnam. China is getting brides from North Korea and Vietnam and other SE asian countries.

Japan being even more xenophobic then South Korea has issues bring in foreign maids at all


All of the east asian countries though are aging fast and have a lower birth rate then Europe as a whole, even accounting for the importation of foreign brides
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
Partially.
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Then please provide proof.

Lord Tammerlain said:
South Korea is importing bridea from the Phillipenes, and Vietnam. China is getting brides from North Korea and Vietnam and other SE asian countries.

Japan being even more xenophobic then South Korea has issues bring in foreign maids at all


All of the east asian countries though are aging fast and have a lower birth rate then Europe as a whole, even accounting for the importation of foreign brides
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The above is not proof.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Then please provide proof.



The above is not proof.
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"In South Korea, more than 35 per cent of fishermen and farmers who married in the 12 months to May last year took foreign brides, mainly from China and Vietnam, government statistics show.

Both examples point to the role of cash and lifestyle in Cupid's quiver - it is mainly the less marketable men in the richer countries who look abroad for a wife when they cannot find one at home.

The story is repeated in Hong Kong and Taiwan, and often involves marriage brokers...."
Foreign brides the answer for Asian men
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
"In South Korea, more than 35 per cent of fishermen and farmers who married in the 12 months to May last year took foreign brides, mainly from China and Vietnam, government statistics show.

Both examples point to the role of cash and lifestyle in Cupid's quiver - it is mainly the less marketable men in the richer countries who look abroad for a wife when they cannot find one at home.

The story is repeated in Hong Kong and Taiwan, and often involves marriage brokers...."
Foreign brides the answer for Asian men
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That covers one aspect. I just now need proof for "The Japanese will die out on an effective basis," "White americans are more likely to have children, but opportunities for their children will be diverted to other groups deemed more deserving," "Mexicans are all powerful," and "Black Americans terminate half of their births."
 
Mr. Invisible said:
That covers one aspect. I just now need proof for "The Japanese will die out on an effective basis," "White americans are more likely to have children, but opportunities for their children will be diverted to other groups deemed more deserving," "Mexicans are all powerful," and "Black Americans terminate half of their births."
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Ok. No problem, but we'll use my schedule not yours.

Thirteen percent of Americans are black. This number has been remarkably static for two generations. Why is that? Condom use? But condoms don't feel good do they?

Why has the percentage of African Americans remained unchanged? There must be a reason. Can you think of one other than abortion?
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
Ok. No problem, but we'll use my schedule not yours.

Thirteen percent of Americans are black. This number has been remarkably static for two generations. Why is that? Condom use? But condoms don't feel good do they?

Why has the percentage of African Americans remained unchanged? There must be a reason. Can you think of one other than abortion?
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How about the fact that so many blacks go to prison Source and that it is increasingly black women who are going to prison Source
 
SE102 said:
You do realize that human civilization is no longer driven by religious forces, the important factors of power that be even in radical islamic states is not determined by the number of followers or level of devotion?
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All Great Civilizations have driven only by Religious Forces, always!
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I had a choice in the poll between Conservative christians and socialistic liberal

Conservative christians will lead the US to an orgy of canabalism as people try to feed themselves
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The evidence please, for Christain canabalism!
 
Mr. Invisible said:
"Mexicans are all powerful,"
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California driver's licenses and insurance requirements don't prevent illegal Mexican aliens from driving. But I have to have a license and insurance.

If I serve food to the public I have to have a health permit. That rule doesn't apply to Mexicans serving food from stands.

I have to file tax returns. Mexican citizens don't bother filing returns in my experience. There are two Californias:
VDH's Private Papers:: Two Californias
 
It saddens me the Salvo would sully VDH's good name.
 
Alfons said:
The evidence please, for Christain canabalism!
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The Donner Party

The Uruguayan soccer team plane crash


Give christians a little hardship and they become flesh eating zombies out for human flesh
 
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