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  • Uniforms should be federally mandated in all public schools.

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  • No public school students should have to wear uniforms.

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  • Uniforms should only be used in public schools with lots of discipline problems.

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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    We spanked, lol. Usually only when it got disrespectful though, so it was pretty limited. I think part of the problem then was it was used for everything all the time and that is abusive.

    Today parents, teachers no one has any recourse to discipline a child. Even in sports etc they now teach everyone is a winner! So were is the push for discipline or excellence in anything? I'll tell you... it is not around here.
    While I don't agree that spanking is good, I do agree that the everyone is a winner crap is bull. Failure is a valuable lesson, and too many kids are missing out on it, not because they aren't failing, it's because no one tells them.
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    I am pro uniforms, it is absolutely necessary because without uniforms there is no serious education, children have not discipline, want to wear only expensive brands, make anything they want.
    Oh good grief.....


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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    The way I see it the only real requirement should be if someone can see your undergarments without having to try. Honestly, are you going to ban two-piece swimsuits at the pool? I mean, I can understand leaving out shirts with graphic material and things like that, but making students act like little automatons is not going to be a net benefit to society.

    There is no need for parents to be fascists. Child abuse is a result of that desire for control you are expressing.

    What a terrible thing to say. You most certainly should care what kids want.

    I think the nature of society can be understood from how it treats its children.

    If you cannot even come up with a valid reason then it indicates you have no business pushing your ideal on anyone, let a lone a child.
    You have never been a parent have you? And if you have you are, well this is a good example of how NOT to be a parent.

    And people wonder why kids or so wacked up now days.
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by MissLToe View Post
    We're having this discussion in the education section, so I thought I'd bring it up here for a poll.

    Your opinions, please and thank you.
    I voted "Something else."

    I think it should be left to each individual school. Not even each individual school district, but rather each individual school.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    I can only speak for myself in that I would have hated being forced to wear a uniform. I'm aware of the disparity that is created in schools when children compete over what clothing they wear, but news flash: children compete over everything, from who has the prettiest face, to tic-tac-toe.

    I would much rather see the school system move toward fostering each student's individual talents than stepping more in the direction of militant conformity. But I suppose that's exactly what the public school system has been... it's obedience education for the middle class.

    I find that what you wear can often be its own instructional learning process. For instance, I went through a phase where I wore all black. I didn't identify as goth (and didn't wear the makeup), but I wanted to try it. Seeing other people's reactions to my outfit and seeing how I felt in that outfit was a learning experience for me. Now I have great fashion sense as an adult. For many young people, clothing is a creative outlet. I know it was for me.

    If my school implemented a uniform policy, I would have moved to a different school.
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    While I don't agree that spanking is good, I do agree that the everyone is a winner crap is bull. Failure is a valuable lesson, and too many kids are missing out on it, not because they aren't failing, it's because no one tells them.
    Spanking is not abuse, sometimes it is the only thing kids will understand. If they tried that time out crap with me or one of my brothers, please. It would have stopped us from doing nothing. Time out and other stupid disciplinary crap (Mostly by egg heads who never had kids no less) that does not work. Even kids think it's a joke. In the end those of us who were spanked occasionally did well, we knew about boundaries and punishment.

    I agree on your second comment.
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You have never been a parent have you? And if you have you are, well this is a good example of how NOT to be a parent.

    And people wonder why kids or so wacked up now days.
    So slamming someone's parenting is okay on this board? Okay. Then I suggest YOU are what is wrong with parenting. I have 5 kids: 28, 28, 25, 20, and 10. I agree with most of Demon's post. So let's see -

    My 28 yo son went to Southern Illinois University.
    My 28 year old daughter went to Illinois State University.
    My 25 year old is at Keller graduate school working on her MBA. She has an accounting degree.
    My 20 year old daughter is at Western Illinois University.
    My 10 year old is a happy, healthy grade schooler.

    With the exception of my ten year old, my kids are on their own and doing very very well. How are yours?
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    There is no need for parents to be fascists. Child abuse is a result of that desire for control you are expressing.
    Really? Prove it. Rules, structure and discipline does not equal child abuse, even a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    What a terrible thing to say. You most certainly should care what kids want.
    Sure you should care. And be prepared to completely disregard it. Children want LOTS of things. Being a parent means telling them no 95% of the time.
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Really? Prove it. Rules, structure and discipline does not equal child abuse, even a little.



    Sure you should care. And be prepared to completely disregard it. Children want LOTS of things. Being a parent means telling them no 95% of the time.
    Good parenting...

    Then again, it's my opinion that bad parenting doesn't exist - If you're a bad parent, you're not a parent in that sense.

    Of course, I've never been a parent...But my parents did a fairly good job, I think.
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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I think school uniforms are just fine. You are there to learn, not for a fashion show or prove who is the coolest. Uniforms do away with the need for an enforcible dress code etc. It saves a lot of headaches in the long run.

    In the end we don't care what the "kids" want, that's because they are still "kids."
    I thought dress codes were kind of stupid.... I remember my friend got in trouble for a shirt she was wearing, and they sent her home or suspended her for the day. It was because they could see some of her bra.. it was a thick strapped shirt, not a spaghetti strap and it covered her whole shoulder. It was really hot in the summer and they sent her home, but another girl had a similar shirt on with no bra. You could see her nipples! But you couldn't see her bra, so that was ok... stupid

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