There are several wise people in DP, some of them are even young, and that is admirable. But youth is a time to learn the most important thing about learning, we must keep doing it, constantly. That is the only way to find out that much of what we think we know turns out to be so much Caca del Toro....
Oracle of Utah
Truth rings hollow in empty heads.
Back at you buddy.You can say whatever you like. There is no way for us to check it out, anyway.
Yeah, good thing.Good thing.
My memory is pretty good on most things but when I was eleven I focused more on the people around me than the schools name, so forgive me if it got lost on me.You don't remember what school you went to seventeen years ago?
Bingo. I think this was kind of his point. Teaching kids how to behave and getting them under control when they are young is key.Originally Posted by UtahBill
My parents were anything but controlling actually. I'm just very venomous towards controlling behavior to a large degree.As for control freak, it appears you and Henren have been subjected to such control. Just getting your side of the story isn't enough to make a judgement in your case,
My point again. If you put to much control in the picture the kids won't like you and most likely won't visit after they move out....but I have seen the results of control freaks...the kids move away as soon as possible and hardly ever come back.
I don't understand this one. How is he looking for sympathy?Looking for sympathy won't be any help. We all have our burdens in life, and it is up to each of us to find a way to overcome those burderns.
Have you ever heard of grandparents having a large role in raising their grandkids? If the kids spend the night at his house often, he is having a big role on raising them. Learn to see the big picture.Originally Posted by Bodhisattva
Not really. We were a lovable bunch.Not one kid ever got into trouble about anything? You are a liar and your observations are noted as worthless.
Ok, there was a kid that liked running in the hallway, but running is not really a bad thing, imho.
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I take back the liar comment, since a person with the memory problems that you have isn't really lying, just kinda lost.Not really. We were a lovable bunch.
Ok, there was kid that liked running in the hallway, but running is not really a bad thing, imho.
I just can't believe that you had your first kid at 10 years-old... that is amazing.
Fallacious does not mean that there is some named fallacy if that is what you are asking for. I am saying your reasoning is faulty.Then kindly display the fallacy...
I do not think it really matters since we are talking about your attitude in this case, not in general.Argumentative... one can be confident in some aspects of themselves and not in others.
I was not referring to those comments.Naive is not inferior... sorry.
I know what you said and what I was saying is that it is something I would have pondered. If I had wanted someone to "control" me it is something I would have recognized.I didn't say simplistic, I said "conscious". You really need to start reading better...
No, that is what someone else said. I only said "a while ago" and you should check since you obviously haven't.I believe you actually said, "a short time ago".
Just because you have experienced something does not mean you are better at objectively analyzing it. Actually, personal experience tends to have the opposite effect.All in all, you have your opinion based off of nothing other than lack of experience. Good for you. Keep telling us that have gone through the experiences ourself that we don't know what we are talking about.
No, you see I just a get little hostile when people talk down to me and treat me like I am beneath them. It has nothing to do with feeling inferior.If anything, I would argue that you have an inferiority complex that you mask with a ridiculous amount of arrogance. It seems to seep from every word that you say...
My parents are hardcore Evangelicals so in a sense I was. However, I got away with plenty they would not have wanted so their attempts at control were miserable failures. That is the point. Using something like uniforms to control kids is not going to work and can only cause damage. You should not presume that someone turning out well later in life in any way reflects on a parent's actions. Teenagers are human beings after all and they are exposed to far more people and situations than those concerning their parents. They also have their own minds to figure things out with.As for control freak, it appears you and Henren have been subjected to such control. Just getting your side of the story isn't enough to make a judgement in your case, but I have seen the results of control freaks...the kids move away as soon as possible and hardly ever come back.
I am not looking for sympathy.Looking for sympathy won't be any help. We all have our burdens in life, and it is up to each of us to find a way to overcome those burderns.
"For what is Evil but Good-tortured by its own hunger and thirst?"
- Khalil Gibran