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  • Uniforms should be federally mandated in all public schools.

    27 32.93%
  • No public school students should have to wear uniforms.

    23 28.05%
  • Uniforms should only be used in public schools with lots of discipline problems.

    6 7.32%
  • Somethin' else.

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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Like you would know. I happen to know that private schools perform better than public school on average because of improved discipline, which uniforms are a part of.
    I went to a private school without uniforms and there wasn't any discipline problems. *Shrug*

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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I went to a private school without uniforms and there wasn't any discipline problems. *Shrug*
    Maybe not, but you didn't learn much either....I can't tell if you are a troll, or a foreign national who hasn't lived in the USA very long, or both.

    Private schools usually have fewer discipline problems, as mom and dad are paying big bucks for tuition, and won't tolerate their kids wasting their money.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    You are telling me how to raise kids? WHat experience do you have raising kids?
    Our 2 are college graduates at our expense, have jobs, married, making grandchildren, in that order.
    Leave my wife? She makes twice the money I do.....are you nuts?
    Did you not see the subtle sarcasm in my post? Your private school tuition was wasted, you aren't smart enough to recognize humor.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I went to a private school without uniforms and there wasn't any discipline problems. *Shrug*
    What school was that?
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I hear being disrespectful is fine if you're a parent or teacher.
    And that's disrespectful because.....?
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    How does it go? when I was a child, I thought my father stupid, but when I became an adult, my father somehow got smarter.....
    The problem with SOME kids, they don't learn, they grow to adults thinking they already have all the answers. We can only hope they don't reproduce before their brains get unscrambled...
    I can't agree with this as a general rule. There are plenty of people who, when I was a teenager, I thought they were dumb and that did not change just because I became an adult. It depends on both the teenager and the adult, although, I'd say it is more about the teenager than the adult.

    There are lots of teenagers out there that are quite intelligent, very observant, and highly respectful of any adult that deserves it. We hear more about and seem to notice more often those teens that do act immature and disrespectful of adults because it is human nature to ignore that which is going right and notice what is going wrong.

    There are a lot of adults out there who think they know more than they do (even ones who are teachers) and/or have a lot of biases. I had a teacher in high school who should not have been an English teacher. I know that at 16 I was smarter than her. I was respectful to her in class and around other students (with the exception of my best friend in private), but that was how I was raised. I have had several teachers who did not know how to teach well, they just put out the material or gave an assignment without being willing or able to help the students with any problems. The issues arise when a teenager is disrespectful to teachers, whether the teacher is a good teacher or a bad one. Problems with teachers that will actually affect a students learning should be dealt with through a student's parents or other adults, not complained about/brought up in front of other students. And there are a lot of teenagers out there that do know this and do this, they just don't get recognition for it because it is the right thing to do.

    Also, I consider my father an idiot with very little common sense, and I am 30. He has a lot of (useless) knowledge and he is a nice guy, but he hasn't gotten any smarter to me with age. Especially not since he left my mother. I think of my mother as a hardworking, intelligent, responsible woman, but I have thought of her that way since before high school.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I can't agree with this as a general rule. There are plenty of people who, when I was a teenager, I thought they were dumb and that did not change just because I became an adult. It depends on both the teenager and the adult, although, I'd say it is more about the teenager than the adult.

    There are lots of teenagers out there that are quite intelligent, very observant, and highly respectful of any adult that deserves it. We hear more about and seem to notice more often those teens that do act immature and disrespectful of adults because it is human nature to ignore that which is going right and notice what is going wrong.

    There are a lot of adults out there who think they know more than they do (even ones who are teachers) and/or have a lot of biases. I had a teacher in high school who should not have been an English teacher. I know that at 16 I was smarter than her. I was respectful to her in class and around other students (with the exception of my best friend in private), but that was how I was raised. I have had several teachers who did not know how to teach well, they just put out the material or gave an assignment without being willing or able to help the students with any problems. The issues arise when a teenager is disrespectful to teachers, whether the teacher is a good teacher or a bad one. Problems with teachers that will actually affect a students learning should be dealt with through a student's parents or other adults, not complained about/brought up in front of other students. And there are a lot of teenagers out there that do know this and do this, they just don't get recognition for it because it is the right thing to do.

    Also, I consider my father an idiot with very little common sense, and I am 30. He has a lot of (useless) knowledge and he is a nice guy, but he hasn't gotten any smarter to me with age. Especially not since he left my mother. I think of my mother as a hardworking, intelligent, responsible woman, but I have thought of her that way since before high school.
    "Useless knowledge" is a generational thing, a lot of what we old folks know had uses 20 years ago, but things have changed dramatically in just a few decades. It helps to keep up, being a news junky and watching a lot of science/history channel helps to keep our knowledge updated.
    But some things transcend the generations. My parents fought new knowledge like it was dangerous or something, but push come to shove, if "old" people tell their kids "don't play in the street", it is wise to listen.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    telling me how to raise kids? WHat experience do you have raising kids?
    A fight of experience! I don't need grandkids to know the basics of how to raise kids, jackass.

    I will say my experience comes from having a nine year old and two year old.

    Not like it matters, you have grandkids, so you win the fight of EXPERIENCE!

    Our 2 are college graduates at our expense, have jobs, married, making grandchildren, in that order.
    Great, so how is those relationships with them going? Have they visited anytime recently?

    Leave my wife? She makes twice the money I do.....are you nuts?
    I wasn't offering you advice, per say.

    Did you not see the subtle sarcasm in my post? Your private school tuition was wasted, you aren't smart enough to recognize humor.
    If someone fails to see humor they're dumb? Nice perspective you've got there.

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    What school was that?
    I have no idea it was a seventeen years ago.

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    Re: Uniforms in public schools...

    I agree to a point that there is a need for the need for children to be their own individuals but in the same token we can see how clothing can also effect the status of a child based on the "clique" theory in which clothing is used to distinguish the difference between those kids that have and those that have not. Also the wearing of certain clothing can be linked to gang activity and therefore poses a threat to those who are not really in a gang but by the wearing of a color could be associated with a gang and killed or beaten because of it.

    All in all its a hard subject to say yeah or nay on.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    "Useless knowledge" is a generational thing, a lot of what we old folks know had uses 20 years ago, but things have changed dramatically in just a few decades. It helps to keep up, being a news junky and watching a lot of science/history channel helps to keep our knowledge updated.
    But some things transcend the generations. My parents fought new knowledge like it was dangerous or something, but push come to shove, if "old" people tell their kids "don't play in the street", it is wise to listen.
    I agree. I have a lot of useless knowledge myself, but my father likes to share his with everyone over and over again. And, actually, my father does resist change to an extent, but he is also very passive-aggressive. He is way more likely to let things that he doesn't agree with build up instead of facing the problems as they come along.

    As far as the parents giving children good advice thing ("don't play in the street"), I just think that there are a lot of adults who believe that most teenagers don't listen to such advice or other advice from their parents. I am of the opinion that many more teenagers listen to a lot of the advice that their parents do give them, but that those teenagers that don't, get more attention (negative yes, but still attention) and so that appears to be the norm. Sure, most teenagers could listen to more of the advice that their parents give, but then again, there are many adults who could listen to more of the advice that they are given. Many adults do not give many teenagers enough credit/respect because of the actions of other teenagers, and that isn't fair. Teenagers are individuals, they are not all alike.

    And not all parents are good parents. There are some parents out there who don't give their children good advice or good advice often enough. Some of those children turn out okay (generally because they are getting that advice from sources other than their parents), but many will not fair too well if they don't have the knowledge to begin with.
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