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  • Uniforms should be federally mandated in all public schools.

    27 32.93%
  • No public school students should have to wear uniforms.

    23 28.05%
  • Uniforms should only be used in public schools with lots of discipline problems.

    6 7.32%
  • Somethin' else.

    26 31.71%
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Liberty, Kelzie... why can't you grasp this!
    You are forgetting that Kelzie is female....
    to women, liberty is something that they have the power to grant, or take away.
    To us guys, we have a little liberty in that short time between being told what to do by our mothers, and that time we are told what to do by our wives....

    You are still young, you will understand soon enough...
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You are forgetting that Kelzie is female....
    to women, liberty is something that they have the power to grant, or take away.
    To us guys, we have a little liberty in that short time between being told what to do by our mothers, and that time we are told what to do by our wives....

    You are still young, you will understand soon enough...
    So true it brings a tear to my eye. *sniffle*
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    We have three angry teenagers debating a bunch of parents and teachers... think that we will reach any compromise?
    I just had a great conversation with my friend who's a teacher about kids disagreeing. Her typical response is "I'm sorry, you thought I was asking you a question, but I'm telling you a fact."

    You couldn't pay me enough to teach.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    I just had a great conversation with my friend who's a teacher about kids disagreeing. Her typical response is "I'm sorry, you thought I was asking you a question, but I'm telling you a fact."

    You couldn't pay me enough to teach.
    That is a great one... they pay me "enough"... barely. It is the time off that makes it rock to be a teacher. Sitting here 2 weeks in to a 6 week summer. Just got back from all day at beach with kids and about to go golfing. Rough.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is a great one... they pay me "enough"... barely. It is the time off that makes it rock to be a teacher. Sitting here 2 weeks in to a 6 week summer. Just got back from all day at beach with kids and about to go golfing. Rough.
    Yeah well, I'm sure I'll be jealous of her when our summer rolls around too.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Because of that experience you seem to think isn't important.
    Oh please, the whole "I am older and have gone through more so I have the experience to tell me that I am right" is something I have heard to justify all sorts of positions. If what you were saying were somehow different from what I have heard when discussing foreign policy or criminal justice with people older than me I might give the baseless claim some weight. Rather all I am getting from you is that you do not have an adequate explanation for why you think you are right, most likely because it is purely your gut feeling and not something based in reason, and thus go for a cop-out.

    After thirty eight years of teaching other people's children, I can tell you with no doubt at all that kids who are allowed to do whatever they like don't turn out so well. Parents have to set limits.
    You are exhibiting the typical authoritarian mindset. That is to say you think that without exercising control over others and manipulating them the only other possible outcome is chaos.

    I can also tell from your posts that you lack that essential you seem to think is unimportant: Experience.
    You cannot tell anything from my posts. Do not act like you are some sort of psychic. Rather you refuse to believe that someone can differ from you on this without being a child and thus beneath you.

    Oh, yes, and 50 years ago, I would have totally agreed with this one:



    And even said similar things myself.
    I have no doubt that you did not know more than your seniors. Actually, it seems most of the people on here who are so insistent that anyone under the age of 20 is an inferior being were irresponsible pricks at that age. So I am not surprised you would assume everyone has to be that way at such an age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Studies show that children not only need structure (control) but want it... and wtf am I debating parenting with you for. 19, 20 years old? good grief.
    I cannot think of any time when I was a child that I wanted people to control me. I like how people like you presume you know my age and then presume from your initial presumption that I must be inferior to you. Sorry, but you are not that good.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I like how people like you presume you know my age and then presume from your initial presumption that I must be inferior to you. Sorry, but you are not that good.
    ....oh I don't think it's your age that's the problem.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    ....oh I don't think it's your age that's the problem.
    I would love to hear what you think is the problem.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    I would love to hear what you think is the problem.
    Honestly? That you're being arrogant and condescending. And your posts lack any substance other than you trying to bully people.

    There's actually a number of studies out there that would back up your argument. Use some of them. Nicely.
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    Re: Should school uniforms be banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Oh please, the whole "I am older and have gone through more so I have the experience to tell me that I am right" is something I have heard to justify all sorts of positions.
    ...and generally people who have gone through more have more wisdom on the subject. Pretty simpler really...

    You are exhibiting the typical authoritarian mindset. That is to say you think that without exercising control over others and manipulating them the only other possible outcome is chaos.
    I don't think that anybody is anywhere close to indicating that. If you are reading into that, then that is your problem...

    You cannot tell anything from my posts. Do not act like you are some sort of psychic.
    Actually, not only have I gotten the same exact impression as he, but I have written to that fact a number of times. "Naive" ring a bell?

    Rather you refuse to believe that someone can differ from you on this without being a child and thus beneath you.
    I gain many insights from people younger than me, much younger sometimes... just not you with regards to this.

    I have no doubt that you did not know more than your seniors. Actually, it seems most of the people on here who are so insistent that anyone under the age of 20 is an inferior being were irresponsible pricks at that age. So I am not surprised you would assume everyone has to be that way at such an age.
    It has nothing to do with being inferior. Stop the drama already... it has to do with experience in the matter, something that you clearly and repeatedly show that you do not have. Hence, your opinions are next to worthless.

    I cannot think of any time when I was a child that I wanted people to control me. I like how people like you presume you know my age and then presume from your initial presumption that I must be inferior to you. Sorry, but you are not that good.
    Against you I am... and it is nothing that a child consciously ponders. More naivety...

    ...and I presume nothing. You said that you were 18 just a short time ago, or something, not me.
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