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Obama a radical?

Do you think Obama is a radical

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Mr. Invisible

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I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
 
Mr. Invisible said:
I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
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Obama is a radical as much a having macaroni & cheese for lunch. :roll:
Sounds like J-mac is having BS propaganda for lunch.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
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He's about as radical as these guys are.

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His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

Hell yeah, he's a radical.
 
apdst said:
His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

Hell yeah, he's a radical.
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Proof that anyone in his family was a communist?
 
Mr. Invisible said:
I was talking with J-Mac earlier in the week about Obama and J-mac said that Obama was a radical. I wanted to see if anyone shared his sentiments or did not.

Personally, it is my opinion that Obama is not a radical at all, his policies are not as left as some would think and in some cases he can be seen bargaining with people to get something passed (eg the tax cuts).
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radical is a subjective term, meaning that what you view has a radical I may not BUT with that said the trick is to think OBJECTIVELY

you judge radical from the MIDDLE not from your own point of view. For example if I dont mind interacting with different races or people of different backgrounds or people better off or worse than me and you were taught that you shouldnt or believe you shouldnt you may view me as a radical, I of course would nto view myself as one

anyway with all that being said, in my opinion Obama is not a radical lol, but im an independant so?
BUT im open to persuassion, if someone can give me some logic why he is Id change my mind.
 
apdst said:
His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

Hell yeah, he's a radical.
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That's categorically circumstantial evidence.

The Cloward-Piven strategy is (1) not radical (since when is informing people about the law radical?) (2) since the only goal is to inform people, talking about welfare in public in any case can contribute to its fulfillment, meaning any political landscape which discusses welfare risks executing the strategy by accident, and (3) Obama hasn't been in power long enough (or done enough) to execute that strategy.

radical is a subjective term, meaning that what you view has a radical I may not BUT with that said the trick is to think OBJECTIVELY
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The concept is subjective to society, not to individuals. A radical in any society is a person who is going to strain or break the limits of the status quo; a sudden and dramatic reordering of civilization. A progressive might seek to enact the same changes, but in such a distributed timescale that the limits of the status quo are not challenged, but altered subtly.

'Radical' the term can be subject to individual meaning, too, but unless it conforms to the above formula, it doesn't indicate anything except dissatisfaction.
 
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Obama is barely center left, not much of a radical.
 
apdst said:
His mom was a commie, his dad was a commie, he went to commie meetings, he's friends with the likes of Bill Ayers. He's following the Cloward-Piven strategy almost to the letter.

Hell yeah, he's a radical.
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I like how every reason you have that he's a communist, or a radical, is what people around him have done. Does guilt by association mean anything to you? His mom was a commie, therefore he must be. His dad was a commie, therefore he must be! He knows a guy named Bill Ayers, therefore he's also a commie!

Its a conspiracy on par with 9/11 conspiracies.
 
If we count communists, anarcho-syndicalists, nazis and fascists, Obama is left wing but not extreme. If we limit our discussion to those who have actually held high elective office in the USA he is one of the more extreme left wingers. When I think of Obama, I don't think of radical. Underqualified and incompetent are the terms that come to mind.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Proof that anyone in his family was a communist?
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I thought everyone knew by now that his dad was and his mentor Frank Marshal Davis was. Many commis, marxist, terrorists in his past and even today.
 
Barbbtx said:
I thought everyone knew by now that his dad was and his mentor Frank Marshal Davis was. Many commis, marxist, terrorists in his past and even today.
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You need to watch an episode of Star Trek called "The Drumhead".

Obama is not a radical Communist or a marxist.

And even if his dad was, which I don't believe he was, he left Barack and went back to Kenya, Obama wasn't raised a marxist so he could eventually take over the white house and turn America into a socialist utopia.

If he was that clairvoyent he coulda just picked the lottery numbers... hey maybe thats how he paid for college?
 
I would say in the context of the Presidency, Obama is one of the most leftwing Presidents we've had. Radical? Nah. Those who would say "yes"... it probably says more about them than it does about Obama.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You need to watch an episode of Star Trek called "The Drumhead".

Obama is not a radical Communist or a marxist.

And even if his dad was, which I don't believe he was, he left Barack and went back to Kenya, Obama wasn't raised a marxist so he could eventually take over the white house and turn America into a socialist utopia.

If he was that clairvoyent he coulda just picked the lottery numbers... hey maybe thats how he paid for college?
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drumhead-now that is a good description of Obama. We can call John Boehner BONHAM!
 
Obama is a radical socialist!
 
Alfons said:
Obama is a radical socialist!
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Like I said. Speaks more about the person making the claim, than Obama.

And btw... can you explain exactly what a "radical socialist" is? :lol:
 
Radical in the context of American history is somebody you disagree with. It carries about as much weight in political discussion as 'activist judges'. However, it's fun to see supporters of Reagan claim that Obama is a radical. I'd rather Obama be a radical on the left than an extremist from the right.
 
Barbbtx said:
I thought everyone knew by now that his dad was and his mentor Frank Marshal Davis was. Many commis, marxist, terrorists in his past and even today.
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I think the request was for proof, not a statement of your opinion. Sources please?

As for Frank Marshall Davis: In another thread, cons are defending the right of a pedophile under the first amendment. But here, you attack a writer and activist you happen to disagree with, even though he was well within his first amendment rights. So it seems to me that conservatives haven't quite figured out that whole hypocrite thing, yet.

It's like cons and Saul Alinsky: Cons claim hatred for him, yet cons have been using his playbook since Nixon. They have you guys all messed up. Atwater, Rove, Luntz, Poindexter - bad bad bad.
 
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Imo Obama is a leftist of the social justice variety who believes in using the federal govt. as a vehicle to move the country sharply to the left. He has succeeded. Now he will appear to move to the center, and wage a rearguard action to protect his accomplishments.

Is Obama a radical? In the universe of leftist idiocy Obama is not radical.
 
Alfons said:
Obama is a radical socialist!
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Mitch McConnell is a Aryan-like, Elitist POS that protects his ultra rich friends and wacko-religious people that want to force their beliefs on every American PLUS he is a NAZI!!!!!!! :badpc:

There....how do YOU like it? Sound goofy? :roll:
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
Imo Obama is a leftist of the social justice variety who believes in using the federal govt. as a vehicle to move the country sharply to the left. He has succeeded. Now he will appear to move to the center, and wage a rearguard action to protect his accomplishments.

Is Obama a radical? In the universe of leftist idiocy Obama is not radical.
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Just can't make a statement without insulting half the American population, can ya?
 
Kev316 said:
Just can't make a statement without insulting half the American population, can ya?
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Wait and see how the American population gets insulted when Obama get's his stupid ass voted out in 2012.
 
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